Let's (simply) put it this way... What would you do?...

I'm selling to city + county gov-mints -- things must be approved, sometimes involving grants and all sorts of BS

THAT's the problem right there and there.

Me? I am the Howard Roark approach... never do business with a Committee. If I am not speaking to the Decision Maker, and a decision needs to go to a committee, I am not interested. And for that matter, I am not interested in making money from the theft of other people's incomes - which is what Govt money is.

Now, TW, you know what your choices are. For 15 years nothing has changed. And with Gummit it ain't likely to. So you'll just have to either grin and bear it - or - move on. You cannot expect anything from a civil servant who gets paid whether they do nothing or do something. And who only does something if they absolutely positively have to.

Of course, being Govt, there is usually a Fee which can be paid for Speedy Service. Call it whatever you like, it's just a polite word for Bribe.

Ross out...