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Don,

Thanks for clarifying.

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your POV, I would have Still jumped in if you had said Big money or Little money because they are Blanket Statements which are factually Incorrect.

If you want to make Big money you need someone with Big money to spend it with you - or several smaller monied people, or Many little money people. Notice how, in each case, the money is still other people's.

But more important than that is...

Their Desire To Spend it.

In this regard I am Also against Dan Kennedy saying, "if you can't make money without money, you can't make money with money" because it is also Factually Incorrect.

For example: Imagine a place. A Kingdom. The King has ALL the money. The peasants have None. NOw here's the rub...

The single thing that the peasants have to offer, in exchange for some of the King's money, is their Labor. But, if they do not want the King's money, then it doesn't matter how much money the King has, because he cannot get anything done with it.

So for a Transaction to take place, the King must desire something to be done and to pay for it with his money - and - the peasants must desire to have some of that money. A peasant with a desire for money but a King with no desire for building or buying, ends in nothing. Just like a King with a Desire for building but peasants with No desire for his money.

Factually, it DOES take money to make money. It also takes a desire for someone to Spend that money and for someone else to want the money they want to spend.

Kennedy would be more accurate if he said, "If you cannot make money without your own money, you will not be able to make money With your own money." Because the simplest money I can make, even if I have no money, is to sell my labor.

It would be more accurate to say, "It doesn't take your Own money to make money" and a slight twist, "It doesn't need to take a Lot of your own money to make money."

The other versions - Keenedy's and what you posted - are just plain wrong. A result of Laziness to express the Correct meaning. No different than saying the Sun "Rises" or "Sets" or goes "Behind a Cloud". And similar to when people say, "Oh, I forgot..." - they did Not forget did they, as they are saying it right now (they actually remembered, just not When they wanted to).

To relay a Quote which Victor Schlosser once said, "I've seen hell. It's a place where no-one says what they mean, or means what they say. I live that hell everyday of my life."

Michael Ross