Have you seen "The Secret"

I'll admit, I only made it through about half of the movie.

I thought it was a bunch of unproven, hyped-up nonsense.

I see "manifestation" and the "law of attraction" as two totally different things.

I'm a firm believer that whatever our minds can conceive and believe, that we can achieve. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with any outside forces that we have no control over.

Winning the lottery? Getting the perfect parking space? Nope - not gonna happen. When things like that do happen, it has nothing to do with "the law of attraction" and everything to do with luck or coincidence.

Everybody that pulls into that parking lot is hoping for the perfect space. If you get it more often than most, it just means that you're luckier more often than most.

There is nothing outside of your own person that your thoughts can control. I don't mean to offend anyone here but I think that to believe otherwise is just plain silly.

Now, those parts of your life that you CAN control - manifestation can play a HUGE part.

An example in my own life....

You may have heard me talk about moving to Hawaii a time or two :-)

A few years ago, there were many obstacles standing between me and the Islands, money being one of the biggest.

Now, every night when my head hits the pillow, that picture of what my life is supposed to look like becomes crystal clear. I'm talking literally here. I can see it every bit as clear as if I was already there. Not only can I see it, but I can feel the tropical breeze and feel my toes in the sand. The smell and the sound of the early morning North Shore surf is just as vivid.

It might be hard to understand for anyone that has never experienced it but all that stuff is so deeply rooted in my subconscious mind that it totally directs and drives everything I do without giving it any conscious thought.

The subconscious mind knows that to live in a "cheap" home where I want to live will cost in excess of a million dollars and that my credit is so shot that it will likely require cash to pull it off.

In the last couple of years, the money has poured in as a direct result of my efforts driven by the subconscious.

A few years ago, Hawaii was nothing more than a dream and a long term goal. Today the money is no longer an issue. (no, I don't have a million in cash - yet :-) There are other obstacles in my path that I'm subconsciously driven to knock down that wouldn't even be issues if Hawaii wasn't in the big picture.

My subconscious mind knows that there is no force on this earth that can possibly keep me from living there. At this point it will happen without any conscious effort from me.

That's the power of manifestation.

But I still can't ever seem to find a good parking space.

Go figure?

Jim

www.AlohaBen.com

Interesting, Ankesh. To a certain extent I agree with you on most points.

I, too, skimmed a bit in my post because I didn't really want to open up a can of worms by stating my personal theory of things tho' I did allude to it when I stated 'but not as most folks think' in re: manifesting.

Some of my experiences lead me to 'know' that there is a type of intelligence behind the universes and their evolvement. It is this 'universal intelligence' that we tap into when people do things that are apparently beyond the normal functioning of humans. A 98# woman picking up a vehicle off her son, for example, or people 'picking up on' knowledge not yet apparent, such as happened with the school cave in or with Lincoln's dreams that, unfortunately, came true.

You asked about handicapped children. They are a gift to themselves and others. I believe we are here to both learn lessons needed for our own growth and to help others to progress. Handicapped children are some of our greatest teachers. Through love and suffering they teach others compassion and skills they may need to learn. Some of our most advanced medical discoveries are helping many folks because another's suffering helped along the discoveries.

A more pointed question is: why do adults become handicapped? They came into the world whole but they leave a handicapped body behind...why? Well, consider Steve Reeves. He not only taught others how to persist and overcome, he inspired many others to learn how to help others by contributing his intelligence and feedback about various therapies that were tried on him. In a very real sense, he was a test subject and teacher as a result of becoming handicapped.

Anyway, this is quite long and would require an encyclopedia to be fairly comprehensive on such topics so I'll quit for now.

One more point: we DO learn from things we experience on the internet and marketing arenas, too. Anyone who's been scammed came away more aware, more determined to personally avoid, and help others avoid, scams. Spammers are teaching us...again...to do unto others as we'd like done unto us by causing some of us to suffer at their hands. I'm looking forward to the spammers progressing and going beyond their narrow minded attitudes...with or without their cooperation.

Sandi Bowman

[Ankesh]

"Success requires two things and two things only.

1. You must know exactly what you want. Most people never make this decision.

2. You must determine the price that you will have to pay to achieve it and then get busy paying that price."

- H.L. Hunt (Texas Oil tycoon)

Originally Posted by James Anthony

I'll admit, I only made it through about half of the movie.

I thought it was a bunch of unproven, hyped-up nonsense.

I see "manifestation" and the "law of attraction" as two totally different things.

Getting the perfect parking space?

Everybody that pulls into that parking lot is hoping for the perfect space. If you get it more often than most, it just means that you're luckier more often than most.

Some of those people were willing to circle the lot or sit idling waiting for that perfect spot. I choose to grab a spot and exercise by walking the few extra steps!

But I still can't ever seem to find a good parking space.

Go figure?

Jim

www.AlohaBen.com

I find that the harder I work, and the smarter I work, the luckier I seem to get.

Meanwhile, others spend hours and tons of money on eBooks and guaranteed ideas, systems, product lines, looking for the perfect business that will put them on easy street. Yet, because they rarely make a start, they have little prospects for getting lucky. Better to start something than continue checking out every new and great promise, waiting for that "can't-miss" business or ground-floor opportunity.

Just my opinion.

Dennis Bevers

Sandi:

Thanks for your thoughts.

Manifesting is a load of bollocks. It's a Something For Nothing mentality. Instead of Promoting such concepts it would be better to promote that the way tog et ahead is Not to expect something for nothing but to Work towards it, in fair trade without coercion.

Wars are Not caused by citizens they are caused by Governments. One Gang against another gang. Even within the country this goes on but they are called Lobby Groups. Who strive to turn us all into sacrificial animals to serve their good works.

If people are taught about Property Rights and that you cannot have Group rights without Individual Rights first, then much of the Collectivism we are Forced to live under would disappear as people would see the scam for what it is.

Michael Ross

[GordonJ]

Ah. Controversy.

Opinion. Knowing. Believing.

Secrets. Manifestation. How things work.

I've attached the Square One Workshops MASTER PICTOGRIGM...

this pretty much explains it all.

You will see that we travel a life line from our birth to our death. We came into the world with inherited "stuff"...genes, attitudes (which can be changed), physical attributes. Seen on the Pictogrigm by the little people on the left...Birth Mom and Dad, their birth parents...and generations before them.

On the far right is the Obituary, the destiny of everyone.

I'm prepared to answer questions on the SQ1 MASTER Pictogigm (SQ1M) so ask away...today, I'll discuss

MANIFESTATION.

The SQ1M shows manifestation by the thoughts (the want, the idea represented by the plus signs, it is something you want to ADD to your life) being projected into the "heavens"

AS the person travels toward the GOAL, the small triangle, which is the tip of the Pyramid of Accomplishment (POA)...

There is movement TOWARD the want as the thought is held and gathers power...this movement is seen on the POA...movement is activity, or ACTION...

but holding steadfast to the THOUGHT is only a part of the manifestation process...the other part is the TIME/ACTIVITY spent on it and as the POA shows (some of you know this, there are at least 7 EXITS from the bottom of the POA to the Top (the MANIFESTATION) ...and it is an adjustment of activity...

So, you want to manifest a business...first thing is to know what kind of a business...what does it look like in the real world..the image, or MOLD of the manifestation must be clear and precise...

It could simply be: a lawnmowing business that pays the rent.

Well to mow lawns, you need a mower or someone with one to do the work...so no matter how hard, how much BELIEF goes into the thought, into the want...into the desire...

there has to be ACTION, and that has to be CORRECT activity toward the goal.

That is how "controlled" MANIFESTATION takes place.

This little picture attached contains a LOT of answers for people...and without magic, secrets or supernatural occurences.

OK. Thanks for bringing this up... so many new people have never heard of the SQ1...must I write a book? Perhaps.

Gordon Jay Alexander

PS. Here is a brief explanation of the SQ1 in general and why it is such a good TOOL to use:

http://tinyurl.com/2bgrzu

Michael, thanks for your opinion. Obviously we disagree, but that's nothing new between us, is it?

Gordon, you're on the right track for the most part. My experiences have taught me slightly different interpretations but we're probably enough in agreement to not need the big grin to disagree.

As for the supernatural stuff...it isn't super anything...just a matter of learning to use what one has been given. That's all I do...nothing super about it...it is, in fact, totally natural. Children are born with much more capability than they eventually acknowledge because socially unaccepted notions, knowledge, and behaviors are suppressed in them by parents, peers, and circumstances.

If there's any secret to all this it is the simple fact that people generally only use 10% or less of their mental capacity...and this makes all the difference in the way life for them, and those they influence, manifests itself. Yes, that is the correct use of the word manifest...that which is, or becomes, apparent. Nothing secret, nothing magical, nothing supernatural.

I realize that most of what I write will be misunderstood or misinterpreted by the majority, if not all, but that's one of the hazards of trying to discuss that which people have no, or very little, preparation for. I just accept it and move on. If, eventually in response to an event, a new way of thinking or reacting to something happens in a life, then all have gained for no one is an island unto themselves. The social butterfly or the hermit, and everyone in-between, influence their environment and others either by their presence or absence.

Sandi Bowman

[GordonJ]

is of the same opinion still".


Gordon, you're on the right track for the most part.

I take exception to this Sandi, as if there were a "right" track. Allow me to explain.


My experiences have taught me slightly different interpretations but we're probably enough in agreement to not need the big grin to disagree.

Your EXPERIENCES are just that, YOURS. You own them, and they are what they are.

When I did the SQ1, I needed to take my personal experiences out of equation and look for reality...something that applies to everyone everywhere.

I KNOW that any person in the world who is tossed off a bridge is going to go DOWN.

I KNOW that for a FACT. Although there are those who are on drugs, perhaps, who BELIEVE they can fly...and thus the splat when they hit the ground.

As for the supernatural stuff...it isn't super anything...just a matter of learning to use what one has been given. That's all I do...

I have no way of knowing what you do Sandi, so I can't comment on it. But the universal FACT, that I know to be true is we are NOT all created equal...perhaps you did come into your life with "gifts" others of us may not have.

nothing super about it...it is, in fact, totally natural.

Again, I don't know what you are referencing, but I do disagree with the idea that we all have the same "natural" abilities. We don't.


Children are born with much more capability than they eventually acknowledge because socially unaccepted notions, knowledge, and behaviors are suppressed in them by parents, peers, and circumstances.

All children? How do you measure capability? I do agree that we become products of our environment and the influences of our early childhood, coupled with our innate (read genetic) specifications. . I don't know what socially unaccepted notions are...And are you talking about Western notions?

If there's any secret to all this it is the simple fact that people generally only use 10% or less of their mental capacity...

How is this a fact? How has this 10% use of mental capacity been shown? There have been very limited studies, extremely biased studies and a lot of speculation and hyperbole on the 10% so called fact...IT isn't a fact, however, I'll give you the idea that MOST of us don't fulfill our full potential, fair enough?


and this makes all the difference in the way life for them, and those they influence, manifests itself.

I agree not using all you've got makes a difference in a lot of lives, I'd also present the idea that most people are using the best they've got at the time.


Yes, that is the correct use of the word manifest...that which is, or becomes, apparent. Nothing secret, nothing magical, nothing supernatural.

All life is manifestation Sandi, right? The SQ1 concerns itself with CONTROLLED manifestation...that which becomes apparent by ONE's effort and activity.

I realize that most of what I write will be misunderstood or misinterpreted by the majority, if not all, but that's one of the hazards of trying to discuss that which people have no, or very little, preparation for.

Are you really trying to have a discussion? It doesn't feel that way to me. But I could be wrong. I'm trying very hard NOT to misunderstand or misinerpret what you are saying...but I'm struggling with what that is.


I just accept it and move on. If, eventually in response to an event, a new way of thinking or reacting to something happens in a life, then all have gained for no one is an island unto themselves.

Again, this no one is an island isn't a fact or universally accepted truth. There are lots of islands out there. We (the Western World) have pert near made most of Africa an island with our lack of response to events taking place there.

And as for new way of thinking or reacting, what has been gained? By whom?

The social butterfly or the hermit, and everyone in-between, influence their environment and others either by their presence or absence.

How have the millions of starving children in Africa influenced their environment? How have the millions of repressed, poverty stricken people in China influenced their environment? They are all PRESENT and accounted for, and for the most part totally ignored.

I'd love to have a discussion with you Sandi regarding this. Are you willing to share what experiences you're referring to?

My experiences have taught me that I don't have definitive answers, I don't KNOW...except what I know.

Gordon Jay Alexander

Would love to another time, Gordon. Right now I'm very concerned with surviving and getting the operations done that urgently need to be.

Let's let it go for now and resume later if/when we both have the time, shall we?

Thanks!

Sandi Bowman

[Glenn]

Hi,

Thanks.

We're testing this topic right now in 2 different Mastermind Networks.

You may Find that focused thoughts (The Secret) seem to Surface new For-Profit ideas. (This happens with me.)

Here is a wedding photographer
who just Attracted 10K
with his Thoughts...

I think he was running a non-performing ad. The only change he made was his THINKING. Boom. He made 2 sales.

(For us - New *Thinking Plus Action* always has a Quantum Income effect.)

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Photographer Gets 6 Leads and Attracts 10,000
by Focusing his Thoughts.

Good morning Glenn,

2 weeks ago when I started practicing putting my intentions out, I decided that I wanted to sell our two float tanks. I make most of my income as a wedding photographer, but I haven't been shooting (not many people get married during the winter in Chicago) so I'm not bringing in much money right now.

Selling the float tanks would inject a nice boost of cash, which is why I focused on that.

Within a week I got 6 calls from interested buyers! Compare this to getting maybe 1 email every couple months from a mildly interested person. Two of the people who called are serious and it looks like we're going to conclude the deal within a week.

I just woke up 5 minutes ago. Before I got up, I spent a couple minutes thinking about what I really want. I've been feeling very disconnected from people lately, so I decided that I want to induce a change within myself that will result in my being able to connect with people on a deeper level than I normally do.

I remembered that I had to return a couple emails so I logged on. I had just received the email I've copied below. It was clear that I had to write you right away when I read the words " Learn the Secrets of How to Connect With People" only 2 minutes after deciding that's what I wanted!

Thank you for connecting with me!

Francisco

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Thanks,
Glenn Osborn
Rentamentor

P.S. - We've been masterminding specific things you can say and think and do - that make the Moolah Attraction ideas in The Secret Profitable.