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I am no longer offering my free book: "The Ways to Get a Business Without a Dime"

I offered each person my site to buy my out of print best seller and no one ever bought one damn thing.

Paul Hartunian does not believe in FREE either. He is wiser than me.

You have some real problems, and you need to understand what's happening.

1) You are NOT marketing products that people are standing in line to buy.
Sad as it may be, people seem to be looking for targeted, quick fixes to their problems, and your "books" don't fit the bill.

2) If you insist on marketing online you need to find a site designer, and someone that can write much better than you do. Your site is riddled with poor writing, and that probably has a lot to do with your lack of sales.

As someone told you not too long ago, quit telling everyone how much you think you know. If you knew it, you wouldn't be where you are now.

If however you DO know all you say you do, then it's time to fish or cut bait. Either put your knowledge to use at once, or chuck it all.

Saying you're a "Marketing Expert", then coming to all of the forums you've visited today to whine about your lack of sales proves you're blowing a lot of hot air.

People care ZERO about what you've read or what you think about it. The proof is in what you have to offer. And, from looking at your recent posts, you do not have anything to offer that others want.

Step back, look the situation over. Then either correct it or fold up your tent and fade into the sunset.

Pete

Originally Posted by Pete Egeler

You have some real problems, and you need to understand what's happening.

1) You are NOT marketing products that people are standing in line to buy.
Sad as it may be, people seem to be looking for targeted, quick fixes to their problems, and your "books" don't fit the bill.

2) If you insist on marketing online you need to find a site designer, and someone that can write much better than you do. Your site is riddled with poor writing, and that probably has a lot to do with your lack of sales.

As someone told you not too long ago, quit telling everyone how much you think you know. If you knew it, you wouldn't be where you are now.

If however you DO know all you say you do, then it's time to fish or cut bait. Either put your knowledge to use at once, or chuck it all.

Saying you're a "Marketing Expert", then coming to all of the forums you've visited today to whine about your lack of sales proves you're blowing a lot of hot air.

People care ZERO about what you've read or what you think about it. The proof is in what you have to offer. And, from looking at your recent posts, you do not have anything to offer that others want.

Step back, look the situation over. Then either correct it or fold up your tent and fade into the sunset.

Pete

Pete, I sent you a message.

Thank You,
Jason Hatchett

I think SOME of it has needed to be stated for a long time but, Pete, I think you could have phrased some of less harshly. It's obvious Joe has expression problems (which he didn't always have to this degree so put 2 and 2 together). Therefore, it would seem that we could be a bit more understanding.

I'm sure your intentions were the best, Pete, because you're not normally a hostile person. Perhaps a lot of us (me included sometimes) need to be more aware of things, helpful, and a bit less judgemental.

Best to all,

Sandi Bowman

My books are hard to find public domain books not written by me. So it has nothing to do with my writing. Pete you are mean man. I use to be like you but since I follow the philosophy of Hill I have changed.

Maybe I don't write the best ad but show me who does I find lot of people make errors. I am an accountant by education and not a writer. I am learning to write, However because I know it is the ad that sells and not the product even if you have the best mouse trap.

Pete if you made a lot of money tell us how or keep quite. I never said I was an expert in anything about business and not anything else, especially accounting, and I read lot of the experts in Marketing. Cossman and Melvin Powers, Jay AbrahResearcheram and Dan S. Kennedy. and many of the old works.

I am more a Researcher than anything else.

Joe,

You and everyone here has the right to call me "mean". That comes with the territory.

BUT.. On your home page, you claim to be an "Expert Marketer", yet you are constantly saying you can't sell your products. That in my mind is a problem.

I haven't made a "lot" of money, Joe. But I do manage to make a few thousand extra dollars each year with my projects. That doesn't make me an "expert" either.

I'm betting that you're a pretty darned good accountant, Joe. Why don't you
channel your energy into what you know?

Could you produce some useful reports like "Taxes for Dummies", "Tax Cuts You Weren't Told About", etc.

Not too long ago, someone asked for tax information concerning gifts. Right up your alley!

You know so much that, with a little effort, you could probably turn it into some very useful, and profitable information.

Forget the PD marketing books, unless you're going to put them to use for yourself. They're not selling, so move on. Don't beat yourself over the head trying to push them any longer. You're only wasting your valuable time.

Make Hotsheets about taxes, accounting, etc. Offer them to banks, savings & loans, etc., as an advertising vehicle, etc. Stop and think a minute man!

Can you show me how to save taxes with my home office? What are ways I can get tax break on my home/property? Can I write off the use of my personal car in any way?

These are things that YOU know. Exploit them, use them, prosper from them. This could be your bread and butter. Or at the very least, a great source of appreciable income.

Pete

[Ankesh]

Thanks Joe.

I wouldn't call Pete mean. In fact - he is the only person who has been extremely direct with you - and is trying to help you.

Who would you like:
a. An accountant who tells you in a soothing voice that everything is all right when its not
or
b. An accountant who shouts at you when something goes wrong and tells you to fix it?

I would have thanked Pete instead of calling him mean.

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Joe - I'm going to be "mean" too. Hopefully - this time - you'll see the post as helpful instead.

1. You name drop a lot. There hasn't been a single post where you haven't talked about some one successful.

That in itself is ok. But you use the names to justify your actions. Which is not ok.

For eg: you say Paul Hartunian doesn't believe in free either. Which is absolutely wrong. Paul runs a free newsletter since years! Just "today", I received an email from him - about a free teleseminar!

Paul is great at converting free users to paid clients.

2. You "claim" you are a marketing expert. And then you "say" you can't sell. These are your words. Not Pete's or mine. Don't you find it weird that a marketing expert can't sell?

Should a person be called a marketing expert if he can't market effectively?

Does reading good marketing books and writing a thesis paper make some one a marketing expert?

Rule of thumb: Never call yourself an expert on a topic - until some one else calls you so.

3. Have you ever bought from a sales letter that has 20 errors in it? I have not - even though English isn't my first language.

From the 30 second audio you had (have?) on your website - your English didn't seem that bad. But when you write - it comes out horrible. You need to hire some one who proof reads your work. Or ghost writes for you.

4. Even besides English, your sales messages aren't as good as it can be. I'll give you just one example. I'd gone to your website some time back. And on the page where you were selling an Elmer Wheeler book - you wrote that it cost you $15 to get the book converted into pdf format. And then you asked for $20 for one pdf copy.

Why let people know that you'll be making more than 100% per sale?

Would you buy a shirt from a store that had a board up that said "They get their shirts manufactured in China and it just costs them $1.50" - when you see that the shirts are for sale for $20?

5. You have read so many marketing books. So you might have read this: you should focus on your clients!

Yet - your posts and website is all about me-me-me.

"I did this. I learnt that. This happened to me."

6. You do have a tendency to plagiarize words.

You call yourself "renegade" - which is straight from Dan Kennedy.

Just recently, you used words that John Carlton had written on a post about Gary Halbert - on another forum. "Gary Halbert has left the building" - or something to that effect.

There have been a few other instances too - but I don't remember the details now.

Action Summary:

1. Focus on one topic - as Pete suggested.
2. Find or create products that are in demand.
3. Write well or find some one else to write for you.
4. Have systems in place to sell. Writing posts on forums that are focused on you and has grammar errors - is not a good way to sell.
5. Don't try to be boastful and name drop. Be You.

I ask you people a question on how to sell. Thinking you might know something that I did not know. My books are in taxes however they only sale during tax seaon. I can't explain that. My other books are the old masters that have nothing to do with my writing. The old masters that you can't find.

1) Go to your website RIGHT NOW. Take out line that says you are an "EXPERT MARKETER". You are not, and you're only hurting yourself by claiming to be. An "Expert Marketer" does not go from forum to forum asking people how to market!

2) Forget your "Masters". (By the way, in less than 15-minutes I found every one of your books for sale on the Internet. As one would expect, the hard copies are more expensive than your digital versions.)

What you need to do, (If you have the right to ,) is re-write these books. Shave them down, break them into smaller books, reports, lessons, etc. Quit trying to convince people about how great these authors are/were.

I don't care who your authors are/were, Joe. What I DO care about, and what every potential client of yours cares about is.. What will your books do for me? Make me younger, smarter, prettier, stronger, sexier, richer?

Post after post you start spouting.. Sell the Sizzle. Joe, you are NOT selling the sizzle. What you're trying to do is say. "Hey. I like what this guy wrote. Buy this book because I spent $15 to get it converted."

So again, FIX YOUR WEBSITE. If you can't do it, can your son? If not, hire it done. NOW. Barring this, take it down until you can get it fixed. The longer you leave it up, the more damage it will do to your efforts and your reputation as a marketer.

These are FACTS, Joe. They are not attempts to be "mean" as you and others have said. If you can't step back, see for yourself the problems that have been pointed out and fix them, you need to hang it up.

You've tried to long-jump, Joe. You should have mastered the baby steps first. I'm betting that Wheeler, Halderman-Julius, et al start providing their lessons from point "A", not point "Z".

Pete