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Old April 19, 2007, 12:02 PM
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Default 21 Ways to Profit from the Corn Crisis as Ethanol Heats Up Energy Market...

As I was writing about ethanol for a project, I came up with 21 ways a person could profit from the "corn crisis" in America. Corn Futures (which is a form of gambling in my mind) and stock markets did not land on the list.

21 ways that anyone looking for a HOT topic to create a special report or to sell tools to the miners can do. ANYONE.

Everyone is going to feel the impact as more corn is grown BUT headed away from our normal markets, and increases across the board in the supermarket will be felt.

So there you go. Another FREEBIE.

GJA
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Old April 19, 2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 21 Ways to Profit from the Corn Crisis as Ethanol Heats Up Energy Market...

another gem by gordon ...

I missed the link to your article ...

well..tried to find a smiley face and couldnt !
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Old April 19, 2007, 09:28 PM
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Default I'd love to learn more about the 21 ways...

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As I was writing about ethanol for a project, I came up with 21 ways a person could profit from the "corn crisis" in America. Corn Futures (which is a form of gambling in my mind) and stock markets did not land on the list.

21 ways that anyone looking for a HOT topic to create a special report or to sell tools to the miners can do. ANYONE.

Everyone is going to feel the impact as more corn is grown BUT headed away from our normal markets, and increases across the board in the supermarket will be felt.

So there you go. Another FREEBIE.

GJA
Hi Gordon,

I'd love to read your article/report!

I did a bit of reading about this... It looks like the price of corn is going up, way up! As you point out - the reason why is due to the high price of gas, which leads to pressure to produce ethanol as an alternative fuel... (And the corn-growers love it, because they'll make a mint if the ethanol is made from corn. So undoubtedly they're lobbying the government to force as many people to buy their stuff through changes in legislation...)

Of course, rising demand for corn means higher prices. That also means - more expensive Mexican (or "Tex-Mex") food! Since a lot of Mexican/Tex-Mex food uses corn (corn chips, tortillas, tacos, and so on)...

(Yummm... Just writing about Mexican/Tex-Mex food, and thinking about delicious tacos and burritos, makes my mouth water... Basically, I love almost anything with jalapenos!)

I don't know the 21 ways - but I'd love to read more about it!

Cheers,

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Old April 20, 2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Whoa, Big Fellas..

Not so fast with the corn!

Saw the other night where Tyson Foods has made a deal with a major oil company (think it was BP) to produce ethanol out of chicken dung!
Seems like testing will begin this summer.

So let's see.. Maybe we can look forward to Cackle Gas in the near future which will again make our Corn Flakes affordable.

Of course, I suspect that High-Test will be replaced with BS Booster+

Pete
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Old April 20, 2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: 21 Ways to Profit from the Corn Crisis as Ethanol Heats Up Energy Market...

Hi Pete,

I was talking to a chicken farmer myself who told me he had enough left over sawdust and manure to power much of his operation.

The problem was effectively changing it to ethanol.

But he is one of the poultry farmers who contracts with companies like Tyson.

The question is... does Tyson really own the refuse or will the farmers want their cut?




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Old April 20, 2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Sawdust to Ethanol

On the subject of Sawdust to Ethanol

I was checking my bookmarks on ethanol production.

Here is a link to one process for turning sawdust to ethanol.

http://www.green-trust.org/sawdust_ethanol.htm

I don't know how the manure content changes this if any.





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Old April 20, 2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Sawdust to Ethanol

Are we changing manure and saw dust into ethanol or methanol?
I thought those components made methanol.
An additional problem with ethanol is corn is a major part of feedstock for animal production.
The competition for corn can only make meat pricess increase.
There are many, better answers than ethanol.
Synfuels come to mind. Technology is existing and proven.
Hitler ran a major part of his war effort on it and, I think, South Africa used this when the boycotts were the toughest.
Here in the US, coal is cheap and plentiful, synfuels is a real viable alternative. I don't think it's terribly dependent on the quality of the coal, either.
Wyoming has started some major work on synfuels.
Here, in Pa., we have a lot of old "boney piles" sitting around from the pre-reclamation days.
Not long ago, the number that was used a lot was $45bbl oil makes a lot of stuff start to become economically feasible.
However, the government will put their money where it's least efficient and polititically most expedient.
Throw the ethanol tax credits into the mix and you have a very distorted market.
Larry
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Old April 20, 2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Sawdust to Ethanol

Larry,

Thanks for adding.

With everyone talking about Ethanol as if it is readily available like Petro fuels. While forgetting - or deliberately ignoring - that it Takes Energy to make ethanol. And MORE energy than what is gotten out of the ethanol. Ethanol would see us use more energy then we are now.

Add to this the recent findings about its health detriments and it is an area that needs to be looked at in more detail before jumping on. But, alas, as you so well put it, "the government will put their money where it's least efficient and polititically most expedient."

Michael Ross
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Old April 22, 2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: 21 Ways to Profit from the Corn Crisis as Ethanol Heats Up Energy Market...

How about we take our time and make sure we find the right thing to use for our cars. Why the HELL are we taking our corn that should go for eating to running cars? And did you notice how prices are up in other food items? Wait until a few more years!....40.00 for a box of cereal

The Earth is fine and will be here for a long time. I agree to stop polluting the earth with dumping and all the other stuff but come on....there is plenty of oil under ground for awhile longer than to panic.

Plus the Earth is not going to heat up and burn up from people. What is the correct temperature of the Earth?

Well go out and enjoy your day.
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Old April 22, 2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 21 Ways to Profit from the Corn Crisis as Ethanol Heats Up Energy Market...

kind of agree with you there , ol buddy ...

next thing on the list of 'gotta haves' is food...

so, we should expect a famine of sorts ...or water ?

thansk
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