Migrant Success Secrets

Hello: I think the key phrase is here:
"He took a minimum wage factory job in the US because it's all he could get."...In other words he "settled" for what he could get and made the most of it...Just this old man's take...

Rooster
www.rockerwisdom.com

Technically, may be. However, being one year
> old isn't quite the same as an adult who
> makes the move.

> So your parents really have those shoes on.

> The thing is... you mentioned it on your
> post. It's there to be seen. It was implied
> and even stated outright. For those to see.

> I would not say there was one thing if it
> did not apply universally. It applies to ALL
> migrants. Just because you can't quite see
> it at the moment doesn't mean it doesn't
> exist. It does. And whenthe answer is
> revealed you will see it clearly.

> Yep. That's it.

> Sorry... we have gone this far I have to
> keep at it until someone "gets
> it."

> Michael Ross




"Don’t get ripped off!"...

> Not sure if this is always true, but I would
> think that migrants have no expectation that
> someone would support them, would bale them
> out if things got tough. They have total
> self-reliance.

Can't say what Australia's immigration laws are because I have never bothered looking at them - after all, I live here. But both the US and the UK have rules that, if enforced, prevent any social welfare cases. That is... prevent someone just lobbing up on the doorstep and going on welfare.

There are also age restrictions on work permits with vacations. They figure above a certain age and you aren't on vacation, you are looking to settle. So they won't give you a vacation work permit.

> Someone said it on a tape I once heard
> called "Ten reasons why most people
> fail financially". One of them was

> "a crippling sense of entitlement"

True. Do you recall anything else that might have applied to why an immigrant would succeed and a natural born not?

Michael Ross

> Hello: I think the key phrase is here:
> "He took a minimum wage factory job in
> the US because it's all he could
> get."...In other words he
> "settled" for what he could get
> and made the most of it...

They arrive in a new country to settle and settle for any job - boom boom. :o)

While often true, there are many other people who do whatever work they can get. Maybe they don't have a piece of paper for something better (whatever "better" means). Maybe they just like doing that kind of work - hands on people as opposed to brains on people. Maybe they prefer jobs without much responsibility. But they still don't have the advantage the migrant has.

I like your approach though. You are at least paying attention to what I wrote... that Karol mentioned it in his post without realizing it. It is stated clearly in his post.

If everyone just concentrated on Karol's post someone would surely get it.

Michael Ross

..."There's no rush to be successful" ?

That's the only thing in Karol's response that hasn't been beaten to death so far.

Just give us the answer d*mmit }:(

"}:(" is "Aussie" for "getting annoyed at this string" (no I'm not from Australia - but figured I'd speak to Michael in his native tongue - haaaaarhahahah!!!)

-Anon

p.s.- the above was a joke Michael - so don't go firing a poison pen "get it?" type post ;-)

> Do you recall anything else that might have applied to why an immigrant would succeed and a natural born not?

Is it the fact that the immigrant is willing to pay the price of success...to do whatever it takes...while the natural born thinks that certain actions are beneath them so they wait for conditions to be right while the immigrant is willing to do whatever he has to get what he or she wants?

Steve Ski

Michael,

"they knew what they wanted and did what they could to get there."

Pete Godfrey

> There seems to be an imbalance to success
> when migrants are added to the numbers.

> From the outside, migrants appear to have a
> higher proportion of successful people from
> their numbers than people born within the
> country.

> And this out-of-whack ratio applies to all
> western countries - migrants succeed in
> Australia more than Australians, migrants
> succeed in the US more than people born in
> the US, migrants succeed in the UK more than
> people born there.

> We can, in an initial and dismissive way,
> attribute this to some kind of work ethic -
> they work harder.

> And while that may be the case, that would
> be an observed result of something else.

> In other words... they tend to do jobs other
> people don't want to do. They tend to do
> menial tasks. "Idiot work." Often,
> it is thought, they do these jobs because
> they don't have the formal qualifications to
> do anything better (but what does
> "better" mean?).

> And while that may be true, there are many
> natural born citizens who also work those
> jobs and who do not succeed.

> Without formal qualifications many start
> their own little businesses. But again, if
> starting a business was all that mattered
> than plenty of natural born citizens would
> also go on to the success migrants do. But
> it doesn't happen.

> As a group, more successes come from
> migrants than from other groups.

> Why is it so?

> There is one thing all migrants have in
> common that gives them an advantage over
> natural born citizens. It is something all
> natural born citizens can also have, if they
> want to.

> Before I reveal it I want to hear what
> others think it is...

> So why do migrants tend to succeed more so
> than natural born citizens?

> Michael Ross

> ..."There's no rush to be
> successful" ?

Nope.

> That's the only thing in Karol's response
> that hasn't been beaten to death so far.

Not quite.

> Just give us the answer d*mmit }:(

I'll give you another clue...

They have this advantage by the nature of being a migrant. Whether they like it or not. Thus, it is not a skill or any other mystical Napolean-Hill-Anthony-Robbins-Mumbo-Jumbo.

Michael Ross

> Is it the fact that the immigrant is willing
> to pay the price of success...to do whatever
> it takes...while the natural born thinks
> that certain actions are beneath them so
> they wait for conditions to be right while
> the immigrant is willing to do whatever he
> has to get what he or she wants?

Okay... try this...

They arrive in the country and take a minimum wage job. And they are able to survive on that minimum wage job.

WHY are they able to survive on the minimum wage job?

"They are able to survive on a minimum wage job because they... (insert thing here)"

Michael Ross

> "they knew what they wanted and did
> what they could to get there."

This is also true. How is that an advantage though?

It's an advantage they have the moment they arrive in the new country.

Michael Ross