The 800-pound gorilla -- aka The connection we're not making...

[GordonJ]

Originally Posted by Doc Jakson

I find this discussion to be one of the most interesting,
Doc

Doc,

I find it interesting too in that it is thought provoking. But as TW continues his quest for the "wormhole" that will take him to the upper level, I keep wondering what it is.

His premise is (as I understand it) "there is a lower level and an upper level and never the twain shall meet". They are separated, not connected and what works in the lower level does not work in the higher one. There are different "processes" perhaps occuring in both levels?

I think that is the premise.

You can't get the answers from the lower level on how to get to the upper level...you have to get the answers from the upper level.

I think I can shed some light.

Most of us have heard of Napoleon Hill and Think And Grow Rich. He spent 20 years interviewing the success of his day. Here is ONE important point that doesn't get discussed.

Not ONE. Not a single name listed in the book. NOT ONE, used the 13 principles in TAGR...they either signed off on some of them, or agreed, or confirmed AFTER THE FACT of their success...but NONE of them used the Napoleon Hill information.

They were at the TOP LEVEL when he interviewed them (otherwise, why bother?).

They took a look and said something like "Oh sure, that's what I did." or "Yes, I agree with your research and premises."

The HUNDREDS of people that Napoleon Hill talked to all had different methods, different approaches, different personalities, and yet he tried his best to SUMMARIZE the common elements. And he came up with the 13 in the book...without a single one of the people he interviewed saying they followed those exact steps.

Think And Grow Rich was a compilation of success. Now, I'm going to sum it all up for you in 7 words. What follows is not only the "wormhole" that TW (and many of us) are seeking...it is also the other side of the sword that explains WHY we aren't at the top level and why TW is right in the premise; you can't take some secret stairway up.

Before you have a knee jerk reaction, give it a few moments to sink in. At least contemplate what you are about to read. Every single one of the successes that Napoleon Hill interviewed would agree (by the fact they reached the top level) and everyone that is at the top level (assuming you don't count inherited wealth {Paris Hilton}) today, will confirm the truth of this.

Here it is. The ELEVATOR to the top level is: Mindset. Mindset that makes focused activity automatic.

In just 7 words you have the answer, the solution and the "wormhole" and every book ever written like Think And Grow Rich and how to get to the top level is in someway, somehow, someONE's methodology of mindset. But it isn't universal or transferrable, you can't use Trump's, you can't borrow Harvey's, you can't instill it or upload it. You either have it or you don't.

And when you have it, you don't need anything else.

Your every waking moment works automatically and you DO the things you MUST do to realize the dream... and the people at the top level may concur, but they can't pass it down to the lower level, because they are indeed separated...at the top, the people have the mindset that put them there...at the bottom level lives the mindset that keeps them there.

It is, indeed, an interesting concept. And those at the lower level may never get it and those at the top don't need to.

The upper level mindset can be worked on, caused by tragedy, history, experience, come on you in a flash, burn slowly within you for decades or never be discovered. Mindset. Mindset that makes focused activity automatic.

And at the lower level, we aren't in the AUTOMATIC MODE, we're still in the stick shift and clutch "changing gears" mode.

Gordon Jay Alexander

PS. It is like the difference between using GPS to reach your destination or a 25 year old map that wasn't all that accurate to begin with.