How do you visualize?

If visualizing worked as it's made out to, there'd be a lot of men having sex with Supermodels and other Celebrity women.

Unfortunately, those who Praise visualization suffer from Selective Memory. They remember when they did it and what they imagined happened. But forget when they did it and what they imagined did Not happen.

Visualizing results in nothing. While wanting something results in visualizing. Think about it.

Michael Ross

[Dien Rice]

Originally Posted by MichaelRoss

If visualizing worked as it's made out to, there'd be a lot of men having sex with Supermodels and other Celebrity women.

Unfortunately, those who Praise visualization suffer from Selective Memory. They remember when they did it and what they imagined happened. But forget when they did it and what they imagined did Not happen.

Visualizing results in nothing. While wanting something results in visualizing. Think about it.

Hi Michael,

I think there are multiple types of visualizing...

There's visualizing the process of doing something. I think that's what "Posh Spice" (Victoria Beckham) was talking about in my original post (at least that's how I interpreted it). She talked about it most explicitly when she talked about her own visualizing...

She said, "I'll lie in bed and think, what kind of look do I want to go for tomorrow? Then I find the pieces in my mind to create it."

It's clearly a process of figuring it out. Imagine that - wisdom from the "Spice Girls"!

Then there is just visualizing the end result of what you want. I think that's what visualizing being with a supermodel (for example) would be like. People don't visualize the process of how they could end up with a supermodel. They just visualize the end result, and that's it. As you mention, millions of guys do this - and very few of them end up with supermodels.

I don't think the two approaches are the same...

Then, Sandi brought up something too... Visualizing for "mind/body programming", and visualizing for "problem solving". Visualizing for problem solving is where you have an existing problem, and you use visualization to try to solve it. Visualizing for "mind/body programming" I guess is more about preparing for something in advance.

Also, I mentioned visualizing as if you are "inside" yourself, looking out, compared to visualizing as if you are "outside" yourself, looking at yourself doing something. (No one's picked up on this one yet... Maybe I'm just bonkers. )

Anyway, I think the whole thing is not necessarily as simplistic as many people make out...

- Dien

I remember reading somewhere that it's one thing to be able to
meditate in a cave; it's quite another to be able to meditate
when a fist is smashing into your face. I strive for the latter,
but so far fall short.

My visualization is not merely visual. I also engage voice and I
attempt (with varying degrees of success) to feel (kinesthetic).
And it only works when I'm not feeling tremendous anxiety, which
has happened at times like after the Northridge Earthquake in
1994. I had a lot of difficulty letting go after that one. Which
indicates more about me than anything else.

I first "put myself" into a relaxed scene - usually on a beach or
in a forest tree house. I have no idea why the latter relaxes
me; I've never been in a forest tree house.

Then I start tying to sense what it is I want to succeed at; I
visualize the big steps I need to take. Then I ask myself "how,"
and if I don't know how, then it means I've got something to
learn. I've identified many things I don't know by this method.

Another method I use involves going to a local coffee shop and
just doodling on a sheet of paper until something begins to
emerge. I use that as a "visualization seed." I've used this to
create stories and poems, and I'm now attempting to use it to
generate ideas for information products.

Cheers,
Bal

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

Also, I mentioned visualizing as if you are "inside" yourself, looking out, compared to visualizing as if you are "outside" yourself, looking at yourself doing something. (No one's picked up on this one yet... Maybe I'm just bonkers. )

Hi Dien, More people are becoming aware of doing what you described while visualizing. Most will see themselves doing something in their minds eye. They will for example see themselves sitting in a roller coaster having fun as if they are being an outside observer watching others.

Better to visualize exactly what you would see, hear and feel looking out from inside your own self rather than watching yourself from a distance. Almost everything you do starts with a visualization of what you are thinking. You then choose to act on your vision or dismiss the thought for another one.

What you choose to visualize and act on will move you closer to your goal. To produce the results you want it really helps to focus on the exact target you want to hit in your minds eye before you act instead of striking blindly. You have to see your target before you can take aim to hit it.

Have you read the book "The Inner Game of Tennis"?

Here's a link to the Neuro-Programmer 2 website.

http://www.transparentcorp.com/produ...FRs-awodRXIPSg
The Neuro-Programmer 2 (NP2) is an innovative software application for the PC, built to help you stimulate your brain and achieve lasting personal change. NP2 combines brainwave entrainment, hypnosis, visualization and other psychological techniques to help you transform your mind and enhance your mental abilities


Cheers,
Steve Shulenski