Where are you on your journey to getting your Toll Position

I don't know about everyone else, but I am still waiting to hear from the people who have created successful Toll Positions for themselves.

If they are out there I wish they would step forward and give all of us some pointers.

I could sure use a few myself.

Hmm... are there even anybody that has made any decent money with toll positions?

[GordonJ]

Originally Posted by Bob Blagg

I don't know about everyone else, but I am still waiting to hear from the people who have created successful Toll Positions for themselves.

If they are out there I wish they would step forward and give all of us some pointers.

I could sure use a few myself.

Bob (and others interested in TOLL Positions),

First let me answer 'BROTHER's' question.

There is a guy in the Mid-West who has been paid over 6 million dollars the last couple of years for his TOLL POSITION. He does not sell anything, he gets a royalty on stuff sold by other people. I don't know about you, but that is a SUCCESS story.

And here is the REASON Bob is going to keep waiting for "help". There is NO motivation on people with TOLL Positions to share...why would they?

This is UNcharted territory for the masses...you won't find one business in 100,000 that is "Toll" based and there isn't a lot of information available about it. Now one problem you "Internet Marketers" have is this:

You are too used to the Guru's "SPILLING THEIR GUTS". Brother brings up a good point in a post, if you are doing well with something, why stop?

Likewise, IF you are making significant amounts of money, WHY would you involve yourself with other people wanting to know what you know? It doesn't make sense, but the Internet Marketing CROWD has you all convinced it is a benevolent, happy to share, wanting to help you group of magnificent benefactors...but the TRUTH is...

They (ALL) want your money. PERIOD.

If they were truly wanting to be helpful, wouldn't they give their infomation away for FREE? And they don't.

So, Bob, why would you expect people who are successful, who have a toll position, who are quietly doing great guns off the radar screen...why do you EXPECT them to share their secrets with you? What do they get out of the deal, good feelings for helping?

Sure, there are some guys like Harvey Brody who gives his time to those that are serious and want to achieve a lifestyle that most only dream about...but Harvey, like almost every single successful person I know isn't going to waste his time giving away a lifetime of trade secrets to the masses...it makes no sense.

Bob, you may get lucky (in my opinion you already have) and find someone who has established a TOLL POSITION who will share their journey with you...but I highly doubt it. If you are waiting for that to happen, you are going to be waiting and waiting and waiting...and the fact is, you are further along than 99% of any noobies starting out, you are much closer than the person who has done nothing.

More than likely you'll find GURUS who will be glad to sell you their discounted courses for 1,497.00 with a NO RETURN policy...and if you want to go that route, then there is information available.

But to find someone who is NOT a guru trying to sell you something, and expect to get HELP (especially for FREE) and to have them give you guidance and/or advice, is, in my opinion, a foolish expectation.

The TRUTH about the world off the Interent, MOST successful people DO guard their "trade secrets" and have absolutely NO desire to share, teach, sell or distribute their in-the-trenches HOW I did it information.

But, I could be wrong.

Gordon Jay Alexander

I agree totally with Gordon.

I have been a fool thinking someone will come along and just fill in the last blank for me. Why should they. What do they owe me. Nothing!!!

I must fill it in for myself.

In Ben Suarez's book 7 Steps to Freedom II: How to Escape the American Rat Race, there is a guy that has a rock in his path and keeps hitting it with his head until he finally is able to break through it, that is going to be me.

What I mean by that is I will not give up on the one barrier that is keeping me from reaching my goal of getting my 1st profitable Toll Position and many more after that, but I will try my best to think through the problem and figure out the best route to my goal.

I will do as Thomas Edison said in two of his famous quotes.

"Be courageous! Have faith! Go Forward!"

"Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time."

Originally Posted by Bob Blagg

I agree totally with Gordon.

I have been a fool thinking someone will come along and just fill in the last blank for me. Why should they. What do they owe me. Nothing!!!

I must fill it in for myself.

In Ben Suarez's book 7 Steps to Freedom II: How to Escape the American Rat Race, there is a guy that has a rock in his path and keeps hitting it with his head until he finally is able to break through it, that is going to be me.

What I mean by that is I will not give up on the one barrier that is keeping me from reaching my goal of getting my 1st profitable Toll Position and many more after that, but I will try my best to think through the problem and figure out the best route to my goal.

I will do as Thomas Edison said in two of his famous quotes.

"Be courageous! Have faith! Go Forward!"

"Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time."

What is the one barrier in your way?

Hi Bill,

The one barrier in my way is a good way to get my products to the end consumer.

As Gordon has said, I can't use direct mail because of the inexpensive nature of my current products.

So I need to get my products into retailers and that has not been easy.

I have been trying to lineup sales reps, but I have not had much luck in getting the quantity of them I need, because most reps don't really want to pioneer new products from an unknown company especially where the products don't have a high commission profit.

Take my CORDGRIP, if I could find someone who was already selling through reps, that call on wholesale distributors who service the trades (heating, electrical, plumbing etc) I feel I would be pretty much all set.

Or at least I would have a shot at getting my product(s) looked at by the people in charge of making the buying decisions.

Take em down to fayetteville (wal-mart)

Or (I think) Penn. (QVC)

Worth a shot, no?

How/where does Target field incoming items? K-Mart?

etc.

-- TW

Originally Posted by Bob Blagg

Hi Bill,

The one barrier in my way is a good way to get my products to the end consumer.

As Gordon has said, I can't use direct mail because of the inexpensive nature of my current products.

So I need to get my products into retailers and that has not been easy.

I have been trying to lineup sales reps, but I have not had much luck in getting the quantity of them I need, because most reps don't really want to pioneer new products from an unknown company especially where the products don't have a high commission profit.

Take my CORDGRIP, if I could find someone who was already selling through reps, that call on wholesale distributors who service the trades (heating, electrical, plumbing etc) I feel I would be pretty much all set.

Or at least I would have a shot at getting my product(s) looked at by the people in charge of making the buying decisions.

Here's are some interesting articles that may give you some ideas:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/magazine...une/70988.html

http://smallbusiness.aol.com/start/s...13184109990005

http://sbinfocanada.about.com/od/mar...gboxretail.htm

http://www.lulu.com/content/437697

Getting your product in stores today is not as easy as it was say in the 60s and 70s.

There were more independently owned stores back then. So you could go into almost any store and talk to the owner.

Today with the large chains owning most of the market, you need to present you idea to a buyer at the main office of each chain.

I know that sounds easy, just fly to Wal-Mart's office and present your product but that won't happen.

You need to find someone such as a rep agency that already has a relationship with the buyer for department that your particular item fits into.

I know someone will say that is not totally true. I agree if you have the next greatest item such as a chemical that will turn lead into gold, they will roll out the red carpet.

I know that is an exaggeration, but I hope you get the idea.

I think wal-mart DOES have special dates where they DO throw open the doors and take new product pitches. I know QVC does (too?). Maybe others too. I would seem they must strike a balance between being a fortress + fielding incoming products. It's either grow or die -- even for the big guys, no?