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Old March 16, 2011, 02:26 PM
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Default Perpetual motion? Where do you get that?

I don't Ankesh, you're reading something I didn't write about.

You understanding is based on limited information as to what this is trying to do. There is no perpetual motion, but there are simple solutions to basic ideas. Do you have experience with a ram pump?

Do you know how they get water from a well with a vacuum pump?

There are mechanical, electrical and magnetic parts, all of which have wear and tear and friction...no thought of perpetual motion here. But I do appreciate your cynicism...I've run into a lot of it, mostly by people who don't have much experience in these things.


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Umm... could you point to the solution - any writeup about it online?

Because my understanding is that its impossible. Rolling water up the tower will take more energy than water rolling down will generate.

(I love reading about attempts made in creating perpetual motion machines.)



Not unless its cheap too.

Can't get much cheaper than water.

My bet is on:

1. Solar energy. But not solar farms. Instead - all windows being converted into solar windows. This is very inefficient as of now - but should change in the next few years.

Why would it change? The basic very basic, ingredient in making solar panels are precious metals which are part of a speculative market...we'll never see affordable solar in our lifetime.

2. Using the idea behind cox clocks to run small devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox%27s_timepiece
Cox clock worked without any external source of power. It worked because of the natural difference between day temperature and night temperature.

Bimetal differentials are used in many mfgr processes. One metal bends sooner than another.


3. Windmills in the sky.
http://www.makanipower.com/
and turbines in oceans.
(This probably is the most cost effective substitute to oil and coal in my opinion. Low startup investments. Almost any place in the world is suitable. Works through out the year - not seasonal. Safe. Cheap.)

Never going to happen.

How you can make money of this trend?

Solar roof installation kits and services are an easy sell.

Power audit services will sell well too. You go to medium to big businesses and tell them you'll help them cut their power needs.

Trading in carbon certificates is going to be huge.

You could make quite a bit of moolah by selling carbon certificates to small businesses and allowing them to claim that they are 100% green...
One person already doing it for websites: http://www.co2stats.com/

Well, your opinions are appreciated, but, you lack understanding on this point. Nice research, however,

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