Hi all, new here!

Originally Posted by Eva

Call it whatever you please. For the 10 bucks he is asking to open your eyes to the possibilities in the "print" biz, spend it and learn. Nothing revolutionary but he does share his resources to outsourcers and printing companies and tips and ideas on how to profit, what to charge, throw in the design tutorials plus his own private forum and there you go. Well worth it in my opinion,

Eva

I certainly appreciate your answer. I don't believe the 10 bucks is the issue. It might be to you, don't know. I was merely asking what the thrust of his program was if it isn't print brokering.

To be honest, don't even care. Bob always over delivers so I know his program is worth 13X more than what he asked.

Oh, welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy the learning experience.

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Originally Posted by Adman

Bob Ross has conjured up a whole lot of interest in......in....in a "Direct Sales" project on a Forum where most of the viewers have never sold anything in their lives....especially Advertising!

UNbelievable! Who wouda known.

My problem with a "Direct Mail" project like this, besides the inexperience of those folks getting involved (Maybe it's the "supposed"...."hoped for"...$5,000 Profit being hung out like a carrot).....is;

The cost is around $2,500 for 10,000 Cards to be Designed, Printed and Mailed. I've been in the Direct Sales biz for a long time and I NEVER start a project that going to cost me OVER $1,000! Because....if I don't get enough paying clients....I have to refund the money they paid.

One of my Ad Projects is a 8 1/2 by 11 Fridge Magnet (it has "Important Phone Numbers at the top....a 12 mo Calendar and 4 Columns wide by 6 Rows down for a total of 24 Ad Spaces)

These Mags cost me $2 ea to be printed and mailed. I print and mail 150/mo.

Guess to whom I mail these Informative Fridge Mags (with 3 Reasons to keep them ON the fridge).....New Movers! People who have moved recently.

And....guess what kind of Advertisers I start contacting? "New Businesses" I get from my City Hall and County Courthouse.

I commit my advertisers to 3 months.....150 mailed each month. I print up 450 magnets. My cost is $2 x 450 = $900.

I charge $150 one-time set up and $450 (3 mos in advance) for a total of $600!....to have an EXCLUSIVE AD on the Refrigerators of 450 New Movers for th next 12 months!

$600 x 20 = $12,000 less $900

Don Alm....Sales Guy

Don,

You said:

"I NEVER start a project that going to cost me OVER $1,000!"

Makes 100% complete sense. In my research I found that NV (where I live) offers a fantastic business opportunity via their statutes. The creators must by law be Nevadans and be at least three. The members don't have to be Nevadans.

The benefits are huge and only the members can take advantage of the benefits. For example, it can make loans without any special licenses. Think about that for a minute. It can be a venture capital organization without any special licenses or it can own a movie studio. In other words, the org and its members (only) can do any thing that is legal.

Oh yeah, what is NV known for? Yep, can do that too.

Anyway, my first question is how would you price an annual membership being a $1000 is your limit? Second question, would anyone anywhere in the world be willing to become a member knowing just the above info?

No, I haven't done anything with it yet other than create a name. I used another statute to create another business.

I'm just putting this out on the table especially since I've read some of the latest WSOs. Recycled horse crap but who am I to say... I guarantee this would be the only ever unique product offered on any forum.

Again, I'm just tossing this out for general consumption. I like this forum and its inhabitants. My "secret" company could be the only greatest idea ever presented to the masses and this forum's members might be the beneficiaries.

Have a great day.

Don, would you care to share your source for the refrigerator magnetic calendars? If not, maybe you could just tell us how much you pay for them as a guideline for what they could be had for?

Thank you, Eva

Originally Posted by sandalwood

In my research I found that NV (where I live) offers a fantastic business opportunity via their statutes. The creators must by law be Nevadans and be at least three. The members don't have to be Nevadans.

Six weeks of residency makes anyone a Nevadan.

The benefits are huge and only the members can take advantage of the benefits. For example, it can make loans without any special licenses. Think about that for a minute. It can be a venture capital organization without any special licenses or it can own a movie studio. In other words, the org and its members (only) can do any thing that is legal.

What is it that keeps me, an alien, from doing anything legal in Nevada?

I can make a loan in Nevada, and never set foot in the state.
Same for being a venture capital organization.

All legal.

New Mexico law specifically says that no group or class shall be granted any special privileges. Then it turns right around and creates a special class called REALTORS, and grants them special privileges by license.

Your state laws, as well as federal laws, are all BS. They are in place to give you something to hang a hope on. Ohhhh the law says THIS, therefore I can do THAT. Bzzzzzzzz. Wrong.

All states, as well as federal are not governed by law. In every case it's a matter of "Public Policy". Try to get a definition of public policy from somebody who cares.
.....deleted a rant here...

Anyway, my point is that if you were offering this special deal based on your residency in Nevada, I'd say no thanks. You may mean well, but I would suspect a scam.
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Originally Posted by Bozo

Six weeks of residency makes anyone a Nevadan.



What is it that keeps me, an alien, from doing anything legal in Nevada?

I can make a loan in Nevada, and never set foot in the state.
Same for being a venture capital organization.

All legal.

New Mexico law specifically says that no group or class shall be granted any special privileges. Then it turns right around and creates a special class called REALTORS, and grants them special privileges by license.

Your state laws, as well as federal laws, are all BS. They are in place to give you something to hang a hope on. Ohhhh the law says THIS, therefore I can do THAT. Bzzzzzzzz. Wrong.

All states, as well as federal are not governed by law. In every case it's a matter of "Public Policy". Try to get a definition of public policy from somebody who cares.
.....deleted a rant here...

Anyway, my point is that if you were offering this special deal based on your residency in Nevada, I'd say no thanks. You may mean well, but I would suspect a scam.
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Boz,

You are 100% correct about public policy. Unfortunately 99.9% of Americans don't have a clue. I'm no longer into trying to explain it to anybody as it is far too easy to say what I said in my post. People understand that. Don't really give a hoot and holler what anyone thinks cuz I just pull out the statute and show it to them in black and white. Shuts everybody up.

As for you making loans, well, could be and could not be. That would depend on what a black robed terrorist would say if you were sued in this State. Sorry to burst any bubbles but the sheeple run straight to the government courts for redress and guess who they drag along.

Regardless, have a great day and remember if they gave people a license for murder it too would be legal. Got to love those politicians...

We don't need no stinking badges!

Originally Posted by Bozo

We don't need no stinking badges!

I remember them telling my friends that as they surrounded their house and invaded. If you think you can have an opinion of the political nature that is gaining steam and a host of converts along the way, well sir, think again. This is America.

Eva,

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Thank you Phil,

Don is great for tossing out ideas but never too willing to share resources. In a perfect world, we all would be sharing but hey, nothing's perfect...

Its like your 15 minutes of fame, oh and ahh, but bottom line, YOU have to find your own way. Makes it kind of hard, sharing and all. Just sayin'...

Eva, semi-reluctant to share, just because...