Old topic, new thread. BARTER.

Originally Posted by ron lafuddy

Barter or trade is always an option and will work for many things, maybe most. It does take time and effort to put the arrangements together. I can see being able to carry on daily functions, having bartered for most necessities.

Taking barter/exchange a step further, the right to hold, use or consume a product/service or otherwise, when reduced to writing, can make you wealthy. Check out what Elon Musk is doing with regards to carbon credits. I'm no fan of his, but I do pay attention to how the system works, and how wealth is extracted from it.

That said, barter will not protect you from the seizure of personal property, real estate, bank accounts and more, being practiced at every level of government. Right down to the local cop shop. Everyone is in on the party, including judges and attorneys.

A friend lost a rental property that he has owned for some 20+ years. A routine traffic stop of the property's tenant, by the local sheriff's department, is all it took. An erroneous "hit" by a canine sniffing dog, can also get the ball rolling.

The ink wasn't dry on the inauguration speech, before the announcement was made, that it would be necessary to expand and modernize the IRS with state of the art "tech weapons" to fight tax evasion, and increase collections.

I think we starting to get a "very clear" picture of what the next 4 years might look like.

Takes a heap of money to build a wall and secure a country's borders to keep people in...I mean...er..ah...out.

Ron

Ron,

Here are 2 ebooks that explain CAF:

https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...1/usab5506.pdf

http://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/201...nd-edition.pdf

I had the web address for a site that detailed each city, county, state asset forfeiture by dollar amount. I cannot find the address. I did a quick google search but it didn't pop up. My county in 2014, last year reported, stole about 1.5 million dollars. Reno stole about 500K. I would suspect those numbers increased over the last 2-3 years.

When you read the books you will see you can't barter, chattel or flirt tip your way out of CAF. Not making fun of those great money makers just trying to drive home the seriousness of an unfettered government.

And, there's no where to hide...

[GordonJ]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...eiture/392999/

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

Many such stories becoming more frequent...

Where is Rambo?

Gordon

Originally Posted by GordonJ

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...eiture/392999/

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

Many such stories becoming more frequent...

Where is Rambo?

Gordon

Here's a snippet talking about barter becoming more important. Read it and I'll tell you the rest of the story.

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If cash is abolished, barter will become much more popular as well. For instance, at the end of World War II, a cigarette economy developed in occupied Germany. Cash was scarce, so ordinary Germans adapted by exchanging cigarettes for food and other necessities.

Indeed, barter of all kinds flourishes when money is scarce. It will flourish even more if governments make a serious effort to abolish cash.

And of course banning cash will only encourage the growth of digital currencies such as Bitcoin.

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Actually the first 4 words of the snippet spill the beans. Cash is being abolished across the world. Look it up. Sweden India and even here in the U.S. Wisconsin and Louisiana are just 2 of the states that ban using cash on some transactions.

If you aren't familiar with barter, well sir, it's about time you get familiar. The totalitarian state wants you even deeper under their thumb.

Let me add bail ins to the mix. If you know what a bail out is, a bail in is almost kinda the exact opposite. These have been proposed in the gold ole US of A for a minimum of 20 years. The source of this brilliance lies with several Harvard professors. Yep, that Harvard.