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Old February 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
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Default The IDEA may be devastating.

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Hi Millard,

I agree with you - I think information is still sparse...

To my knowledge...

* The new coronavirus (Covid-19) could be more deadly than the flu...

I've read 80% of people who get it have few or no symtpoms. 20% who get it have serious symptoms. About 10% of those with serious symptoms die.

(That is, overall, 2% of those who get the new coronavirus, die.)

In the USA, the flu kills about 0.1% of those who get it - that is, about 1 in 1000.

So the new coronavirus looks like it is 20 times more deadly than the flu.

* It also may be more contagious than the flu... But I think the jury is out on this so far...

I'm keeping tabs on the whole thing...

- Dien

I feel like I'm watching a movie. There is a huge desert storm in the distance. A close up shows a 50 foot wall of sand wasting everything in its path.

It is moving our direction, already the front winds, are starting to blow the tumbleweeds across the desert at record speeds. Can we build a wall to stop it?

Can we hide underground from it? Can we just wait and see the effects?

Well, already it is being called a CRASH. We'll see how bad this coming week, the ripple effect of those clean China Skies are now waves, and is the Tsunami to follow?

Don't know about a medical pandemic, but we seem to have a enemademic, with all the shat pouring from politico's mouths.

So, who gets the first mainstream wave? Fast food restaurants? Nightclubs? or Retailers in heavy traffic areas?

Sudden increases in prices, watch butter, cheese, dairy...and beef. Slowly, but then more rapidly a run on the toiletries isle, TP, cleaning supplies, batteries.

Some hunkering down.

Or, maybe like that movie I'm watching, it just ends. Not a particularly satisfying one, just ends.

But as a political football, the kicking it around has just begun.

Good time to have your stock piles of the usual disaster supplies.

Gordon

I wonder if my Rife Pro Wave will have a frequency to kill off the CoronaVirus, I sure hope so.
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Old March 1, 2020, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: CORONAVIRUS impact. None or severe?

Just found this from Dr. Drew Pinsky on the Daily Blast when he was asked about the virus:

"We have in the United States 24 million cases of flu-like illness, 180,000 hospitalizations, 16,000 dead from influenza. We have zero deaths from coronavirus. We have almost no cases. There are people walking around out there with the virus that don’t even know they have it, it’s so mild. So it’s going to be much more widespread than we knew. It’s going to be much milder than we knew. The 1.7% fatality rate is going to fall. Where was the press during the Mediterranean Corona outbreak, where the fatality rate was 41%? Why didn’t they get crazed about MERS or SARS? This is an overblown press-created hysteria."

Something to think about.
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Old March 1, 2020, 01:28 PM
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Default Say this is true: "an overblown press-created hysteria".

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Just found this from Dr. Drew Pinsky on the Daily Blast when he was asked about the virus:

"We have in the United States 24 million cases of flu-like illness, 180,000 hospitalizations, 16,000 dead from influenza. We have zero deaths from coronavirus. We have almost no cases. There are people walking around out there with the virus that don’t even know they have it, it’s so mild. So it’s going to be much more widespread than we knew. It’s going to be much milder than we knew. The 1.7% fatality rate is going to fall. Where was the press during the Mediterranean Corona outbreak, where the fatality rate was 41%? Why didn’t they get crazed about MERS or SARS? This is an overblown press-created hysteria."

Something to think about.

OK, I buy it. An overblown press-created hysteria. And good thing it is Sunday, we can discuss without knowing the next move in the markets, which we will soon enough.

If the press has created this hysteria, what does that say about the fragility of our markets? Potential global instability while a local event occurs? Because of PERCEIVED bad news?

WOWZA, here I thought investors were more cold blooded, hard core get the money types rather than a scared little group of boys sitting around the campfire being told ghost stories.

Today's "press"...is there anyone, anywhere picking up viewers, listeners, READERS in the NEWS sections of the press? I found no evidence, but a lot that says newspapers are soon to be extinct (on paper), TV and Internet have their groups already, so who does this bad news benefit as far as press and media go?

The FOLLOW the money crowd, might say that fear mongering has long been a weapon of the far right. At the other end, fear benefits liberals and their social agenda.

Or there is DISTRACTION, we have a POTUS who is master of misdirection and distraction while pulling nothing out of his hat. Is the press using CORONAv to keep us from seeing something even more dastardly going on behind the scenes. Is it all part and parcel of the Illuminati plan for the New World Order.

Is it a precursor to MARTIAL LAW, which includes limited travel, will states follow and seal their borders? Will we need a passport to get into W. Virgina from Ohio? Fearmongering, pandemics, world economies at risk.

Now I am not a press or media person. Can't recall the last TV show (News) that I watched, and most important news of my day is usually the weather forecast, do I stay or do I go?

I just don't give that much credit to the PRESS as an organized entity and within the Press, the left and right divisiveness sort of cancels each other out.

WHO is the PRESS and what do they gain from creating this hysteria?

Gordon
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Old March 1, 2020, 08:56 PM
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Default I'll be the "squeaky wheel"...

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Just found this from Dr. Drew Pinsky on the Daily Blast when he was asked about the virus:

"We have in the United States 24 million cases of flu-like illness, 180,000 hospitalizations, 16,000 dead from influenza. We have zero deaths from coronavirus. We have almost no cases. There are people walking around out there with the virus that don’t even know they have it, it’s so mild. So it’s going to be much more widespread than we knew. It’s going to be much milder than we knew. The 1.7% fatality rate is going to fall. Where was the press during the Mediterranean Corona outbreak, where the fatality rate was 41%? Why didn’t they get crazed about MERS or SARS? This is an overblown press-created hysteria."

Something to think about.
Hi Millard,

I'll be the squeaky wheel...!

I believe it's a combination of... how contagious it is, as well as what the fatality rate is...

I think COVID-19 (as it is now called) has a similar contagiousness to the flu...

But it is a lot more fatal.

Another thing I've read...

About 20% - or one-fifth - of people who get COVID-19 require hospitalization.

With the flu, about 0.1% - or one in 1000 - require hospitalization.

If that's true, it's a big difference...

One thing with COVID-19 is the worry that it will overwhelm available hospital beds.

I hope (as you do) that it's all a big media beat-up.

But, in practice, I've become a "prepper"...

- Dien

P.S. As for how mild it is, it depends on the age of the patient...

I found this graph here...



The mortality rate is quite low for those under 40, then it increases...
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Old March 2, 2020, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: I'll be the "squeaky wheel"...

Thanks for the graph.

It would seem with reasonable care that most folks can keep from getting sick just by being watchful and cleaning up. Just m are sure when shopping to disinfect your shopping cart, etc.

Just read an article from a top doctor saying that the coronavirus is predisposed to lung tissue and one of the best things to do is get a mask so you don't touch your face or mouth. (It is a reminder when you touch and won't allow you to put your fingers in your nose or mouth)

Gordon raises some good questions about what is going on... best to keep your mind at peace and eyes open.
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Old March 3, 2020, 02:04 AM
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Default On a Positive Note a Client Made 12K in S&P 500 Futures Market

Thanks Dien,

Craig was very happy today on the phone.

He made 12 points.

At 1K a point or 12 Grand.

Just because The Futures market is so volatile.

Glenn

P.S. - Craig says he can ONLY TALK TO ME btwn 4Pm and 6PM.

4Pm when the market Closes.

READING btwn the lines HE IS Making Multiple Trades each day.

All Day Long - as the Futures Repeatedly Hits his Investing model.

When we 1st met Craig was making 60K a year.

In 2019 he made 500K

2020 Looks to be Even Better For Him.

P.P.S. - ME? I like to Help people but in Areas I can CONTROL.

So I am going after More Single Owned Restaurant Clients.

EMPTY becuz of Coronavirus.

More willing to TRY NEW IDEAS.
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Old March 17, 2020, 05:45 PM
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Default Three ways to make moolah in the financial markets at the moment

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Thanks Dien,

Craig was very happy today on the phone.

He made 12 points.

At 1K a point or 12 Grand.

Just because The Futures market is so volatile.

Glenn

P.S. - Craig says he can ONLY TALK TO ME btwn 4Pm and 6PM.

4Pm when the market Closes.

READING btwn the lines HE IS Making Multiple Trades each day.

All Day Long - as the Futures Repeatedly Hits his Investing model.

When we 1st met Craig was making 60K a year.

In 2019 he made 500K

2020 Looks to be Even Better For Him.

P.P.S. - ME? I like to Help people but in Areas I can CONTROL.

So I am going after More Single Owned Restaurant Clients.

EMPTY becuz of Coronavirus.

More willing to TRY NEW IDEAS.
Thanks Glenn...

Awesome stuff!

Along those lines, here are three ways to make money in the financial markets...

1. Figure out which companies are going to be making more money as a result of the current situation...

Then buy their stock.

For example, at the time of writing, ZOOM has more than doubled in the last week.

(Went from $5.50 to $11.80 per share.)

Zoom makes videoconferencing software... Extremely useful when so many people are working from home.

2. Figure out which stocks will go down, or if the whole market will go down, and buy PUT options.

Put options are options that go up in value when the stock price goes down.

However... Keep in mind that if the stock price goes up, Put options go down in value - and can even end up being worth zero. As with everything, there is some downside risk. You have to do your research and take action accordingly.

3. Many people believe we're at the start of a bull Gold market.

To play this, you can buy gold, or gold mining stocks.

If they're right and gold goes up, you make money.

Why would gold go up? Gold is a common "safehaven" when people are afraid. The more people end up buying gold, the more the price goes up.

Best wishes,

Dien
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