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Old March 16, 2020, 10:25 AM
Millard Grubb Millard Grubb is offline
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Default Re: Maybe time for the reemergence of the Midnight Baker.

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We'll see. The initial fear/panic run on stores wiped out Toilet Paper and many cleaning supplies, as well as RAMEN (see, I told you so).

Also reports of BREAD going, especially in rural stores where they normally only deliver a couple of times a week, not daily like in big cities.

I mentioned bread machines above, and barter. There was a time, when I was the midnight baker on the town beneath the sea, and everyone was sleeping cept the midwatch and me...

40 loaves left to cool.

I used to bake up to 40 loafs of bread a night. And that in the relatively tiny ovens of a submarine.

Consider pizza shops, which I think are going to thrive, with delivery...who have big ovens and could easily bake dozens of loafs of bread an hour overnight when not making pizza.

With millions of school kids staying home, the old baloney, peanut butter and jelly and other sandwiches will be a daily staple. And snacks, potato chips and doritos will soar in sales, if they don't run out of stock.

I think the pizza shop owner who gets creative and offers delivery, will find all kinds of new business, and avails himself to the opportunity.

Maybe I can trade a loaf a bread
for a jug of wine,
and thou,
can eat left over pizza crusts...

The whole meals on wheels concept may be about to boom!

GordonJ

Something on the line of Papa Murphy's where they make your pizza, but you bake it would work.

Here in my neck of the woods, Walmart got slammed with almost all the soup gone... but PLENTY of bread ! Went out early at 6 AM and there were a few folks doing the same. However, NOBODY was buying flour or yeast... one person had sugar but most folks were buying produce.

Even with all the panic buying, Walmart still had plenty of food.
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Old March 16, 2020, 11:50 AM
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Default Thanks Millard, you are now a "war correspondent" of the WW Covid19

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Something on the line of Papa Murphy's where they make your pizza, but you bake it would work.

Here in my neck of the woods, Walmart got slammed with almost all the soup gone... but PLENTY of bread ! Went out early at 6 AM and there were a few folks doing the same. However, NOBODY was buying flour or yeast... one person had sugar but most folks were buying produce.

Even with all the panic buying, Walmart still had plenty of food.

Thanks Millard.

The worry isn't so much now, but how the supply chain is going to react. Once things quit getting put into the pipelines, so to speak, we'll start to see the results.

This is work/school DAY 1.

And it is off to a rocky start, already, the market took a breather...and the FED cut the prime to almost zero, and a new stimulus plan, not sure if that includes cash as it did in the Obama one, not sure if anyone really knows, we have to wait and see what congress does.

Flour and sugar are commodities which could lead to abrupt price changes, and some gov't control. Wheat exchanges and fair trade have to exist, or else Uncle Sam could under emergency conditions take control of the commodities which are deemed essential as food for freedom.

We certainly hope that the food supply chain remains robust and there is enough stock in the systems to get us through. But it is an EMOTIONAL time, and many buying decisions are made irrationally.

Let's use BREAD/FLOUR as one of SowPub indicators as to how the world is faring.

What is the Bread situation in your area?

And what other things do we want to keep an eye on? Here in Cuyahoga Falls, they've added workers at GOJO mfg plant, they make PURELL hand sanitizer, I have friends who work there...and one other thing to watch is VINEGAR, both white and cider types. I'll discuss this a little further down the road.

OK. Correspondents get ready to let us know what is happening in your area.

GordonJ
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Old March 17, 2020, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Thanks Millard, you are now a "war correspondent" of the WW Covid19

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Thanks Millard.

The worry isn't so much now, but how the supply chain is going to react. Once things quit getting put into the pipelines, so to speak, we'll start to see the results.

This is work/school DAY 1.

And it is off to a rocky start, already, the market took a breather...and the FED cut the prime to almost zero, and a new stimulus plan, not sure if that includes cash as it did in the Obama one, not sure if anyone really knows, we have to wait and see what congress does.

Flour and sugar are commodities which could lead to abrupt price changes, and some gov't control. Wheat exchanges and fair trade have to exist, or else Uncle Sam could under emergency conditions take control of the commodities which are deemed essential as food for freedom.

We certainly hope that the food supply chain remains robust and there is enough stock in the systems to get us through. But it is an EMOTIONAL time, and many buying decisions are made irrationally.

Let's use BREAD/FLOUR as one of SowPub indicators as to how the world is faring.

What is the Bread situation in your area?

And what other things do we want to keep an eye on? Here in Cuyahoga Falls, they've added workers at GOJO mfg plant, they make PURELL hand sanitizer, I have friends who work there...and one other thing to watch is VINEGAR, both white and cider types. I'll discuss this a little further down the road.

OK. Correspondents get ready to let us know what is happening in your area.

GordonJ

Wife went to the local Walmart for St. Paddy dinner goods.

Here's the report:

No rye bread.... no sauerkraut... plenty of corned beef... lots of regular bread...

Store was packed at 7 AM....

When I was there yesterday, I noticed that they had boatloads of Ramen noodles for about 10 cents a pack... You can do a lot with those little noodles !

Fortunately, I was raised by my grandparents and learned how to cook with the basics and have always had a pantry with standard items to create stews, baked goods, and other things like biscuits and gravy. (Yum)

In any case, reporting from the front lines.
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Old March 17, 2020, 02:13 PM
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Default Magician Bakes MUFFINS On Stage & Kids Torture MOM

Thanks Gordon,

When I Consult with Speakers, Magicians and Trade Show Attendees
I like to use SMELL to Surprise The Audience.

And as BRIBES.

Like the Magician Client who Does ANTI-BULLYING Magic Shows at Schools.

The Entire Auditorium Smells Like RAISIN MUFFINS.
Cuz His Girl Friend Starts Baking My MEGA-MUFFINS (BEHIND THE CURTAIN) Before The Show Starts.

And kids LINE UP
To Get Strapped Down to a Furniture HandTruck
On-Stage in Return for a Home Made - Warm MUFFIN.

CORRECTION - The Kids Volunteer Their MOMS to Get Strapped To The Furniture Hand Truck - THEN the Kids Get a F-r-e-e Muffin.

(EDITORS NOTE - The Benefits of TESTING. Kids love to Perform Magic-Surgery On MOM.)

*******************
Bet You Cannot GUESS which
IS The #1 Favorite Muffin Recipe
that Creates LONGEST LINES.

https://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=77

*******************

Yesterday -
I just bought a 25 lb Bag Of Spelt Flour.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

60 days Ago
I got a new 50.00 BREAD MACHINE.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

30 days ago
I Got a Cast Iron WOK. (Man oh man - that Sucker is Huge)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So.

I Could Adapt some WOK Recipes
from The Internet.

On my new ROCKET STOVE...
Cuz our Power Keeps getting knocked out. So I can now cook with Leaves
and Tree Twigs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

AND
I
INTEND
TO
Write and Sell Some CookBooks with a WEIRD "Marketing Hook."

My "HOOK" Idea
for a new kind of Recipe book?

A Recipe book That Uses
Farm Tools and Implements
During the Food Prep Process.

(Ever SMASHED an Onion with a Sledge Hammer - It's a HOOT.)

Sounds Easy but It takes Some Practice. The slices of onions
want to SCOOT Away - and Jump onto the floor when You Hit
them with the Sledge Hammer head.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old March 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
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Default Hope all school performers have a back up plan.

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Thanks Gordon,

When I Consult with Speakers, Magicians and Trade Show Attendees
I like to use SMELL to Surprise The Audience.

And as BRIBES.

Like the Magician Client who Does ANTI-BULLYING Magic Shows at Schools.

The Entire Auditorium Smells Like RAISIN MUFFINS.
Cuz His Girl Friend Starts Baking My MEGA-MUFFINS (BEHIND THE CURTAIN) Before The Show Starts.

And kids LINE UP
To Get Strapped Down to a Furniture HandTruck
On-Stage in Return for a Home Made - Warm MUFFIN.

CORRECTION - The Kids Volunteer Their MOMS to Get Strapped To The Furniture Hand Truck - THEN the Kids Get a F-r-e-e Muffin.

(EDITORS NOTE - The Benefits of TESTING. Kids love to Perform Magic-Surgery On MOM.)

*******************
Bet You Cannot GUESS which
IS The #1 Favorite Muffin Recipe
that Creates LONGEST LINES.

https://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=77

*******************

Yesterday -
I just bought a 25 lb Bag Of Spelt Flour.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

60 days Ago
I got a new 50.00 BREAD MACHINE.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

30 days ago
I Got a Cast Iron WOK. (Man oh man - that Sucker is Huge)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So.

I Could Adapt some WOK Recipes
from The Internet.

On my new ROCKET STOVE...
Cuz our Power Keeps getting knocked out. So I can now cook with Leaves
and Tree Twigs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

AND
I
INTEND
TO
Write and Sell Some CookBooks with a WEIRD "Marketing Hook."

My "HOOK" Idea
for a new kind of Recipe book?

A Recipe book That Uses
Farm Tools and Implements
During the Food Prep Process.

(Ever SMASHED an Onion with a Sledge Hammer - It's a HOOT.)

Sounds Easy but It takes Some Practice. The slices of onions
want to SCOOT Away - and Jump onto the floor when You Hit
them with the Sledge Hammer head.

Thanks,
Glenn

Always interesting Glenn. The ancient cast iron Wok may be the most useful and most used appliance of all times. Works great over camp fires, or backyard fire pits.

We don't know if school is over for the year, maybe, probably. Into the fall and next year? Maybe. Teachers I know are worried, and anyone who services the schools too.

In a matter of days we've seen a major pivot from HOAX to POTUS wanting to give us money NOW, and who couldn't use a 1k bux?

Also, a Wok can be used to make FLAT breads, and a little flour, water and whatever you got on hand it can be the mixing bowl and oven...a wonderful thing to have.

Of course the breadmaker will depend on if one has electricity. And thanks for kicking my butt again with a reminder of COOK BOOKS. Between the restuarants, caterers, soup kitchens, Navy and AMTRAK, I've got thousands of recipes ...

everything from BEAN pan fried cookies (and bean ice cream), 2 minute microwave mug muffins...

Seem to have a lot in my wheelhouse, but will I swing or get hit by the pitch?

Gordon

to serving large numbers of people CHEAPLY.
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Old March 18, 2020, 01:22 PM
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Default You Are a Baking GOD Gordon - Never Thunk of Cooking Bread in my WOK

Also, a Wok can be used to make FLAT breads, and a little flour, water and whatever you got on hand it can be the mixing bowl and oven...a wonderful thing to have.

===========
Thanks Gordon,

I have been puzzling over ways to bake bread without electricity.

Off the Grid BEARDED HERMITS
seem to all use a Cast Iron Dutch Oven. Which requires TONGS to put burning embers on TOP of the Pan Lid.

But a Cast Iron WOK
Might Work too.

Just Cover a small yeast bread loaf with a metal Pan Lid.

Flip the Bread so the bottom does not burn.

Gotta TRY that on my new 99.00 ROCKET STOVE.

https://glennosborn.com/images/stovecookswtwigs.jpg

So far
FIRST TEST EVER -
I was able to Lightly Burn 4 Frozen Hot Dogs on the Rocket Stove.

Have not got the timing down
to feed in Twigs and flip the Dogs. Gotta Practice.

But Still Edible!

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old March 18, 2020, 09:38 PM
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Default Rocket stove cookbook. Best thing, try WATER.

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Also, a Wok can be used to make FLAT breads, and a little flour, water and whatever you got on hand it can be the mixing bowl and oven...a wonderful thing to have.

===========
Thanks Gordon,

I have been puzzling over ways to bake bread without electricity.

Off the Grid BEARDED HERMITS
seem to all use a Cast Iron Dutch Oven. Which requires TONGS to put burning embers on TOP of the Pan Lid.

But a Cast Iron WOK
Might Work too.

Just Cover a small yeast bread loaf with a metal Pan Lid.

Flip the Bread so the bottom does not burn.

Gotta TRY that on my new 99.00 ROCKET STOVE.

https://glennosborn.com/images/stovecookswtwigs.jpg

So far
FIRST TEST EVER -
I was able to Lightly Burn 4 Frozen Hot Dogs on the Rocket Stove.

Have not got the timing down
to feed in Twigs and flip the Dogs. Gotta Practice.

But Still Edible!

Thanks,
Glenn

Your Rocket stove will be able to heat a cup or two of water, very quickly. So, if you have parboiled rice, or other somewhat cooked items, you can cook them very swiftly. Hot dogs of any variety, do better after they've been soaked a while in hot water...this allows you to cook other things and then just "finish them off" like a stick and turning quickly.

Flat breads like Matzah and even Pitas (unleavend) can be baked in a warm Wok, try haning yours about foot above your rocket stove, and a GLASS lid, like from pyrex, will hold the heat in and only needs flipping one time.

I'm excited for your new discoveries. Try baking a muffin in a can in your Rocket, that would be a good deal.

Rocket Man Glenn's Pocket Cookbook for the Less than Eagle Scout Crowd.

Good luck, have fun with it.

Gordon

PS. I always set water on first thing, indoors, out, camping or in a commercial kitchen. You will find having hot water on hand comes in handy for a lot of things, be it a cup or two or a big pot.
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Old March 19, 2020, 12:11 PM
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Default I Like Your "Muffin In A Can" Idea - Gordon

Thanks Gordon,

If I cut a Soup Can in Half.

Put a Yeast Roll or muffin inside.

ALREADY Risen.

I Could Put the Can in My Cast Iron WOK. (Lid on)

Cook one side.

Then When the Muffin is part cooked.

Flip The can over.

Cook The Top (Lid on)

I will let you know how this works out as soon as we get a sunny day.

Thanks,
Glenn

I just bought new hack saw blades so I am good to go!
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Old March 19, 2020, 09:56 PM
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Default Try dumplings.

Use one egg for the leavening, stir it vigorously, add a handful of flour, and enough water to make it doughy.
Just a little water in the Wok, brought to a boil (cover it for quicker boil) drop spoonfuls of your dough in and maybe turn them after a minute. Take them out to cool, save the water, if any is left.

Now you can add those as they are to any soups or stews you might make.

OR. Then pan fry them in minimum oil, make a good snack.

NOW, you play with it. I don't use sugar or salt in anything, but for those that do, and eat dairy, a teaspoon full of butter and some sugar will give you a sweeter dumpling, after frying, put in bag with cinnamon sugar...again, I don't do it any more, just showing how versatile some flour and water can be.

Consider adding fennel, thyme, oregano, even pumpkin spices, whatever you like and you have a more savory dumpling. I like little ones, but just use a bigger spoon if you like more of bigger dumpling. Spelt flour seems to hold spices and herbs better, make it tastier, although that is anecdotal.

If you don't use eggs, then some baking powder and pinch of salt will work too.

As many variations as you can come up with. I might try a pan (Wok) fried dumpling cookie. I'll use some Oatmeal flour and maybe raisins (who am I kidding, it has to be prunes these days) or some cherries.

Glenn, I'm sure you are doing this, but just in case DOCUMENT the use of every thing you do, every appliance you bought, and with Tik Tok and Youtube some short videos may get a lot of views in the coming months.

Gordon


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Thanks Gordon,

If I cut a Soup Can in Half.

Put a Yeast Roll or muffin inside.

ALREADY Risen.

I Could Put the Can in My Cast Iron WOK. (Lid on)

Cook one side.

Then When the Muffin is part cooked.

Flip The can over.

Cook The Top (Lid on)

I will let you know how this works out as soon as we get a sunny day.

Thanks,
Glenn

I just bought new hack saw blades so I am good to go!
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Old March 20, 2020, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: We're just getting started folks, keep you journals ablaze.

Seems to me that it is time to dust off old cookbooks like "The Fannie Farmer Cookbook" and other from scratch cooking tomes.

In addition, now might be the time to download videos from folks like the "Dining on a Dime" family on Youtube. As long as you have stuff downloaded on your computer (assuming you have power), you can access techniques, how-tos, and other things to learn in this difficult time.

The Organic Prepper created a challenge that with a few details to help those who might want to stock up or get ready for the future. Here is a link to those interested:

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/na...ily-challenge/
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