The power of the Mastermind revisited...

[GordonJ]

Thanks Dien,

We all have people in our lives whom we steer certain convos away from...be they political, religious or Entrepreneurial...or as the old saw goes:

"A man convinced against his will
is of the same opinion still."

As for Mastermind groups, over the years I have come more and more to take the side of Jim Straw, who taught only TWO people can create the third "mind", but I've seen and been in groups of 3 or four. More than four, and I think the energy of the group is dissipated. Strictly anecdotal, as these things must be, but I've found that several smaller Masterminds of just two or 3 people work better than larger groups.

Ideally, just two. Just getting 3 people together these days, even on skype or whatevs, is hard enough. And they should be of a free and open nature, so one person should not assume a leader or guru, or mentor status...but as you say PEERS seeking perspective.

Some of my best Mastermind groups have had only 3 in them; me, myself and I...HA!

OH, those were the groups that had the most disagreement, most arguments and least success too!!!!!!!

Gordon

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

We are all surrounded by people who don't think "entrepreneurially"... and who, given the chance, are ready to slap all your plans down, with why they "won't work"...

What they mean is that they probably couldn't make it work! That doesn't mean that you can't make it work...

Why go back for more and more slaps? Yet... some people do...

(You can still be friends with these people... Just don't talk to them about your entrepreneurial plans if their minds can't accept it...)

So you definitely need entrepreneurially-minded people around you, who you can talk with on the same wavelength...

Having said that, other kinds of "Masterminds" are also useful... Including with the people around you in your life, the people you interact with, and so on...

Once you get on the same "wavelength" you can produce a "Mastermind"-type of connection...

Is there a "mystical" or "psychic" side to forming a "Mastermind?"

(WEIRDNESS alert...)

Napoleon Hill put it this way...

"No two minds ever come together without, thereby, creating a third, invisible, intangible force which may be likened to a third mind."

We've discussed a lot about Masterminds on this forum over time... You can easily find these discussions by using the "Search" function (which you should see somewhere above this post)...

I remember even once we discussed whether you could have a "psychic" Mastermind, even with people who have long since passed... There could be benefits in even that!

One very successful entrepreneur I know swears on the benefits of writing letters to people that you never send to them... So they'll never even know about it.

Could that form a kind of unusual "psychic" Mastermind?

I'll leave it at that for now... but we may come back to it in future...

Best wishes,

Dien

[Dien Rice]

Hi Gordon,

I agree with you... Two or three in a Mastermind works best...

I have been part of a Mastermind which was five of us working together in a business. I put the group together, but we were all peers...

It was a combination of a finance business - the money transfer industry - plus software which we developed ourselves. I brought the money transfer people, and the software people together, and placed myself in the group too... In a way where they couldn't remove me easily. (Since if people can bypass you - so they get more money themselves - they will!) That's where the "toll position" concept came in handy...!

The group itself worked well - but the business, unfortunately, failed (due to external circumstances beyond our control)...

I don't plan to do that again, though! (If I do, please call Bellevue...) It was a lot of work, and in this case, it didn't work out in the end... I think nowadays, I prefer to keep it simple...

Best wishes,

Dien

Originally Posted by GordonJ

Thanks Dien,

We all have people in our lives whom we steer certain convos away from...be they political, religious or Entrepreneurial...or as the old saw goes:

"A man convinced against his will
is of the same opinion still."

As for Mastermind groups, over the years I have come more and more to take the side of Jim Straw, who taught only TWO people can create the third "mind", but I've seen and been in groups of 3 or four. More than four, and I think the energy of the group is dissipated. Strictly anecdotal, as these things must be, but I've found that several smaller Masterminds of just two or 3 people work better than larger groups.

Ideally, just two. Just getting 3 people together these days, even on skype or whatevs, is hard enough. And they should be of a free and open nature, so one person should not assume a leader or guru, or mentor status...but as you say PEERS seeking perspective.

Some of my best Mastermind groups have had only 3 in them; me, myself and I...HA!

OH, those were the groups that had the most disagreement, most arguments and least success too!!!!!!!

Gordon

[GordonJ]

Well, we both have had some NOT so successful attempts these past two decades, and the learning was awesome, if not hard on the wallet, eh?

Another thing a Mastermind creates, is an ENERGY, maybe a third or seperate mind, but accountability and FOCUS is a big benefit too.

I think an ideal for me would be several TWO person Masterminds, like you and I have and you have with your brother...and although we had one also with Harvey Brody, which was more of a Mentoring rather than a Mastermind...his were/are mostly transactional.

It is the JOINING of the minds, the harmony created and the energy of the connection where the real power lies.

I'm more along the lines of a doubles team in tennis than a futbol or football team, where the results could be a "weak link" (ala Clev. Browns and Baker Mayfield, superbowl champs on paper, preseason, super chumps at the end)...

In a business, the more links you have the more likely it is one of them will either break down, or underperform and there is the getting the TIME for everyone to be a part of the mastermind meetings.

I think TEAMS in business of two people, maybe 3 will outperform teams of 5 or more almost every day of the week.

Joint Ventures can be a form of a Mastermind group, if both have skin in the game and want the same results.

So doubles in tennis over soccer, and although I root for the Browns, I never ever put any moolah on them, after all, Cleveland is the mistake on the lake (LeBron being the outlier/exception in Cleve. Sports history).

Gordon

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

Hi Gordon,

I agree with you... Two or three in a Mastermind works best...

I have been part of a Mastermind which was five of us working together in a business. I put the group together, but we were all peers...

It was a combination of a finance business - the money transfer industry - plus software which we developed ourselves. I brought the money transfer people, and the software people together, and placed myself in the group too... In a way where they couldn't remove me easily. (Since if people can bypass you - so they get more money themselves - they will!) That's where the "toll position" concept came in handy...!

The group itself worked well - but the business, unfortunately, failed (due to external circumstances beyond our control)...

I don't plan to do that again, though! (If I do, please call Bellevue...) It was a lot of work, and in this case, it didn't work out in the end... I think nowadays, I prefer to keep it simple...

Best wishes,

Dien

[Glenn]

Thanks Dien, Gordon,

Do You Think it is Possible to Create a Mastermind with someone Who DOES NOT KNOW he or she is IN a Mastermind - To Make a Sale?

I Think so.

I Met a Guy making 100K a Month in an MLM - Flying btwn Groups to Speak.

I told him, "Beautiful Watch."

Jim told me how he met this guy. He and His Wife and The other Couple meet for dinner after each School Play Their Kids are in.

His New Friend - Helped him find a Mechanic when his Mercedes Broke down.

His Friend, Lent him a Car while his was in The Shop.

His New Friend, Introduced him to Several New MLM Prospects.

His MASTERMIND FRIEND Lent him a Rolex Watch to Test Out for a few weeks.

I Laughed.

I Said, "Puppy Dog."

Jim asked, "What Do You Mean - and What is so funny?

ME - "Let me put it this way."

How many MLM Groups have you Spoken to Wearing The New Watch?

JIM - a Dozen

ME - 100's of people?

JIM - "Yeah, So?"

ME - "And What happens when Those 100's of Prospects SEE You without That new 50K Watch?

Jim - "DAMMIT!"

CHA-CHING.

Thanks,
Glenn

[Glenn]

Thanks Gordon, Dien,

I sent a Flying Cow - Dog Toy to a Realtor Client.

Jerry sent it to a Speaker at a Millionaire Realtor RoundTable Meeting of the Top Realtors in THE USA.

That Man Held Up The "Flying Cow." - ON STAGE.

SMACKED it on The Podium - to make it go "MOO MOO."

Called Jerry up on Stage.

Explained that THIS Was The ONLY THING he had gotten in The Mail that Grabbed His Attention - enough to READ the accompanying "Letter."

A "Thank You Letter."

Result - over the course of the weekend.

Dozens and dozens of the Top realtors CAME over to Jerry - And he Got to Pick Their Brains For New Ideas.

Thanks,
Glenn

https://www.amazon.com/Playmaker-Toy.../dp/B000KK3WDM

[Dien Rice]

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for showing us the power of rapport for making moolah and making sales...

Gee... one could even get rich doing this...

One way to look at it is... people are bored out of their minds half the time. If you can give them some positive excitement, they'll love you for it (and remember you)...

Ciao, and best wishes,

Dien

Originally Posted by Glenn

Thanks Gordon, Dien,

I sent a Flying Cow - Dog Toy to a Realtor Client.

Jerry sent it to a Speaker at a Millionaire Realtor RoundTable Meeting of the Top Realtors in THE USA.

That Man Held Up The "Flying Cow." - ON STAGE.

SMACKED it on The Podium - to make it go "MOO MOO."

Called Jerry up on Stage.

Explained that THIS Was The ONLY THING he had gotten in The Mail that Grabbed His Attention - enough to READ the accompanying "Letter."

A "Thank You Letter."

Result - over the course of the weekend.

Dozens and dozens of the Top realtors CAME over to Jerry - And he Got to Pick Their Brains For New Ideas.

Thanks,
Glenn

https://www.amazon.com/Playmaker-Toy.../dp/B000KK3WDM

[GordonJ]

The POWER of Rapport.

Very Powerful. Simple, pattern interrupts, ala Glenn O. can be enough to elicit positive responses.

Dog whistle philosophies, or modern propaganda can elect a President.

And I don't know how many are really BORED out of their minds, I'd have to say a lot of younger people for sure...and those who have not discovered their missions or accepted their journeys...

But it is the foundation of modern fame and fortune isn't it?

How do we establish rapport, what are the different types, the nuances and what is the best way to leverage that?

All answers your lists would probably pay for, wouldn't they?

Our next latest work, RAPPORT THE SowPub way, available as soon as we do it.

How about having SowPubbers contribute, let each contributor sell it and keep their profits? Just thinking here.

Gordon

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for showing us the power of rapport for making moolah and making sales...

Gee... one could even get rich doing this...

One way to look at it is... people are bored out of their minds half the time. If you can give them some positive excitement, they'll love you for it (and remember you)...

Ciao, and best wishes,

Dien