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Old May 24, 2024, 11:46 AM
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Default Belfort, Madoff, Epstein...and Mark Ford and Bill Bonner...

B. Madoff was THE MAN on Wall St. And Jeff Epstein, was the Wizard...and along with Belfort represent one thing about Wall St investors, as well as the readers of Agora Newsletters...


My point goes to TARGETS, (Avatars). When you're calling so-called investors, who are known to have some risk in their portfolios, or when writing copy to sell a financial newsletter...I am going to argue that there is a lot less genius and amazing talent here, than having a keen idea of who is going to buy your bullshine.

If you haven't watched the Tom Brady roast, at least get the youtube Nikki Glaser few minutes.

In her short time, she had some great stuff...and the biggest hit was when she asked Tom how he could lose 30 million in crypto, followed by the line;

"Even Gronk said: 'Me know that not real money.' "

How many billions were lost in that Crypto madness back then?

I'm very sheepish about glorifying the Wolfs, the Sharks, the Lions of Greed, and have more respect for the local successful Realtor, or used car salesman who doesn't need the tricks of selling, or the forceful persuasion of a A=Hole of Wall St. (just my opinion).

But when one knows who they are targeting, who their customers are going to be, then maybe all that great salesmanship and copywriting from these guys should be examined closer.

It isn't that hard to sell high % ROI to the greedy. Or to scare them into thinking they could lose what they have, and need inside info, from a limited subscription newsletter, to save their butts from the soon to be marauding masses.

I think I prefer even the Old Don Alm sales strategy, "Little Ol ME be best salesman."

Anyhow, I prefer to find solutions to problems and present those to the people with the problems...and deciding where to put an extra 100 thousand bux in the stock market? They can fend for themselves.


Originally Posted by Dien Rice View Post
This is a great video of Jordan Belfort ("The Wolf of Wall Street") selling...

Jordan Belfort SELLING Live

I like how he often makes a proposal, and asks... "Does that sound fair enough?"

I remember Mike Rodman - a salesman and early participant on this and other forums, on the early days of the internet - using that same approach! He was a big advocate of making a proposal and then asking... "Fair enough?"

You can learn a lot from this video...

The fictional vs the real Jordan Belfort...

Best wishes,

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