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Old November 25, 2001, 03:12 PM
Michael S. Winicki
 
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Default Another advantage of seeing a project through to completion...

A huge hidden advantage of actually starting a project and then marketing it to the point of knowing if it will work or not is the visibility you'll recieve.

As much as we would like to think that the world operates in a linear type way, or in other words everything is logical..."B" comes after "A" but before "C", kind of thing, in actuality it doesn't (big surprise huh?).

And many of us that really don't believe that the world operates in a linear way for most things, tend to believe it will for our projects (or business in general), which is somewhat puzzling but true.

This is a major reason why the information put out by 'guru's' doesn't work most of the time. While many factors can be explained by a guru, the actual control of those factors is usually left to random chance. Some of the factors may swing you way...sometimes they won't. But usually it only takes one factor not performing up to the guru's directions, to cause a project to fail. This doesn't mean that the information a guru provides is faulty or bad or incorrect. It is just many of the books, ebooks, audio programs and what not put out by guru's usually only measure the 'present' rather than the past which put the pieces in place for the guru to have success. The guru goes on to explain how to make their system work, but doesn't take into account the actions, opportunities and circustances of the past which made their present success possible. Not all guru's are like that...some have gone deeper to explain 'why', taking into consideration the key decisions and actions of the past that contributed to their success in the present and in turn allowed them to create a successful book, ebook or program.

Anyway, back to visibility and how it ties into the non-linear world we live in. When you complete a project and market it (either successfully or unsuccessfully) you'll start to be noticed by others that can assist you in some way. It may be a supplier, or a bank or a joint-venture partner or it may be someone that leads you to greater profits doing something totally different. This is something that you can't control, it will just happen. I've experienced this myself recently on a couple of occassions with projects that weren't successful. But becuase I was 'out there' with them it gave visibility in the market. Success or failure, I was seen by others I could help and in turn they could help me. This wouldn't have happened if I had just started a project and then put it off to the side when I realized I was going to have to spend some real money to see if it would be a profitable venture.

Are you getting any visibility? If not then you aren't pushing your projects far enough. Good things won't always be tied to the amount of profits you make.

Take Ben Suarez for example, he kept trying things, most were failures initially...but due to the visibility of him actually doing something he came across Gary Halbert...and the rest is as they say 'history'.

Take care,

Mike Winicki
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Old November 26, 2001, 10:26 PM
Mike McGroarty
 
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Default The money is sprinkled along the trail . . .

> A huge hidden advantage of actually starting
> a project and then marketing it to the point
> of knowing if it will work or not is the
> visibility you'll recieve.

> As much as we would like to think that the
> world operates in a linear type way, or in
> other words everything is
> logical..."B" comes after
> "A" but before "C", kind
> of thing, in actuality it doesn't (big
> surprise huh?).

> And many of us that really don't believe
> that the world operates in a linear way for
> most things, tend to believe it will for our
> projects (or business in general), which is
> somewhat puzzling but true.

> This is a major reason why the information
> put out by 'guru's' doesn't work most of the
> time. While many factors can be explained by
> a guru, the actual control of those factors
> is usually left to random chance. Some of
> the factors may swing you way...sometimes
> they won't. But usually it only takes one
> factor not performing up to the guru's
> directions, to cause a project to fail. This
> doesn't mean that the information a guru
> provides is faulty or bad or incorrect. It
> is just many of the books, ebooks, audio
> programs and what not put out by guru's
> usually only measure the 'present' rather
> than the past which put the pieces in place
> for the guru to have success. The guru goes
> on to explain how to make their system work,
> but doesn't take into account the actions,
> opportunities and circustances of the past
> which made their present success possible.
> Not all guru's are like that...some have
> gone deeper to explain 'why', taking into
> consideration the key decisions and actions
> of the past that contributed to their
> success in the present and in turn allowed
> them to create a successful book, ebook or
> program.

> Anyway, back to visibility and how it ties
> into the non-linear world we live in. When
> you complete a project and market it (either
> successfully or unsuccessfully) you'll start
> to be noticed by others that can assist you
> in some way. It may be a supplier, or a bank
> or a joint-venture partner or it may be
> someone that leads you to greater profits
> doing something totally different. This is
> something that you can't control, it will
> just happen. I've experienced this myself
> recently on a couple of occassions with
> projects that weren't successful. But
> becuase I was 'out there' with them it gave
> visibility in the market. Success or
> failure, I was seen by others I could help
> and in turn they could help me. This
> wouldn't have happened if I had just started
> a project and then put it off to the side
> when I realized I was going to have to spend
> some real money to see if it would be a
> profitable venture.

> Are you getting any visibility? If not then
> you aren't pushing your projects far enough.
> Good things won't always be tied to the
> amount of profits you make.

> Take Ben Suarez for example, he kept trying
> things, most were failures initially...but
> due to the visibility of him actually doing
> something he came across Gary Halbert...and
> the rest is as they say 'history'.

> Take care,

> Mike Winicki

Mike,

You make an excellent point, and remind me how frustrated I get with those that think they can ask a million questions and eventually roll out a winner.

That's now how it works. The so called failures are actually educational, and even if you don't realize it, the exposure you got while you were failing is what you build your success on.

It's the little lessons that you learn along the way that get burned into your subconsious that eventually bring you success. Not the one brilliant idea that most people search for.

Brilliant ideas are a dime a dozen, I get them all day long just like most of you.

They key to making any of them work is to apply them to what you've learned by accident as you've stumbled along, and you will have a winner.

If you never take the chance of stumbling along, you lack the resources to make anything work.

But then again, what do I know?
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Old November 26, 2001, 11:00 PM
Dien Rice
 
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Default The secrets of success may lie in the "guru's" sub-conscious.... but there are ways to get it out...

Hi Michael and Mike,

These are great points.... I fully agree with the "importance" of "failure" ! Every time you try, yet don't succeed, it means you've absorbed a new lesson.... You now know what to avoid. Eventually, through trial and error, you end up knowing how to get it right so you succeed....

I agree with the point about "gurus" too.... Often, the information IS very good, and I still recommend getting all the quality information you can get your hands on. But I've found that when I try and fail, I absorb a new lesson, and it becomes a "part" of me.... So much so that, after a short while, I'm no longer even consciously aware of it. I just know what NOT to do, even if this knowledge is now lying there hidden in my sub-conscious and controlling my actions from there.

Many "gurus" may be successful because of a LOT of "hidden" knowledge which is lying there in their sub-conscious, which they may no longer even be aware of. If they're not aware of it, they can't teach it. BUT, observing someone work, and working WITH them, can be absolutely invaluable. Even if THEY are no longer aware of what they are sub-consciously avoiding, if you get to work with someone, YOU will probably notice it -- and you will learn that way.

There is no better teacher than experience.... But again, all the information I've read (from various "gurus" and others) has helped me IMMENSELY to get closer and closer to my goals.... It may not be a "guarantee" that things will work, but it's close to a "guarantee" that you will get there faster. :)

- Dien Rice
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Old November 27, 2001, 12:05 AM
Dan Butler
 
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Default Re: How it comes together...

Hi Everyone and lot of good points here. I think the best way is to move forward on your ideas while studying all you can. That way when "opportunities" (problems) come along you already have more ways to tackle them. Just studying gets you nowhere. Just moving ahead is better than nothing. Also people tend not to use the knowledge they've already gained from whatever their life experience has been up to that point.

Just my two cents.

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