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Old November 11, 2006, 05:30 PM
MichaelRoss
 
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Jason,

Thanks for the questions...

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Should a visitor to my country be treated like citizen of my country?

The answer is: Yes and No. And which one of those depends on what part of that country's laws we are talking about.

Yes, if you are refering to Property Rights. However, countries also have laws about buying Real Estate and foreigners. So Those laws must be adhered to. So in that part of the question the answer would be No.

But as far as criminal acts go - drink driving, theft, murder, rape, etc. - then all visitors should be treated as locals and subjected to the same punishments.

IF a person wishes to enter another country they must abide by the laws governing entry to those countries. If they do not like those laws then they don't go. Simple.

Such laws often include No Drug policies, as well as no Flora and Fauna policies. They MAY include certain Vaccination policies. Some require more strict Permission Slips (called a Visa) than others. Some have restrictions on how much alcohol or tobacco an Individual can bring in Without an Import Permit, and so on. Many such laws also apply to citizens. So the answer there is Yes.

On the issue of voting. As much as I think it is folly to vote, other's do not. So only those eligible to vote according to the laws of that country. That usually means Visitors are Not allowed to vote. So the answer becomes No.

But you know... even people in your own country aren't treated equally. I know in Australia for instance, it is Against the law to kill our native animals - kangaroos are an exception With a permit which allows only a certain number usually for culling purposes. But killing an Echidna, is off the list to everyone. Except, of course, the Aboriginal who killed one and then cooked it on the steps of parliament house - flaunting the laws right in the face of govt, who did nothing for fear of Abo outrage. (I am sure there are many so called minorities who seems to have Special Treatment in the US as well.)

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If your sister needed to borrow your vehile for a weeks time, would you allow it?
If so, what type of contract would be written?

No. I would not allow it. And it has nothing to do with whether the sister is a nice person or a family battle is raging. I do NOT lend to family.

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what if "Joe Bloke" came to you and said he needed to borrow your vehicle for a week?

Would you even borrow it to him?
If So, What Kind of documentation would you require?

My answer is still No. However, I can See what you are getting at. Though I am Not a Car Hire business.

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If you required him to leave a fingerprint to verify his identity would he do it.

If he didn't do it, wouldn't you feel that it was the the best protection for your asset (vehicle)?


Whether he would leave his fingerprint as ID is up to him. I cannot answer that for him. I am sure, if ALL such car hire places required it - and - he was sufficiently motivated to hire the car, then he would do it. Otherwise he would not and would find a car that didn't require fingerprint IDing.

As to the second part of the question, "If he didn't do it, wouldn't you feel that it was the the best protection for your asset (vehicle)?"...

If I required he leave a print and didn't I wouldn't hire it to him. Simple. My business. I run it as I see fit. This is along the same lines as, "If I required him to leave a $1,000 deposit and he didn't..." Again, my business, I set the rules, if he doesn't like it he can go elsewhere. Simple.

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The great thing is he maintains his freedom in the fact that he doesn't have to enter the contract.

Exactly. He is NOT being forced into it.

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I simply can't understand why a person one does not know, should be treated like a person that one does know.

No-one said an unknown person should be treated as a known person. I did say, however, that people entering the US who are not US citizens, are given the same treatment as a criminal is given.

Let me throw in another scenario...

Imagine you arrive to enter Disneyland. They might have Season Passes which allow holders of that pass to enter at will. They also have Daily Tickets which grant permission to enter for that day only. Those are the rules of Disneyland. All who enter abide by them.

Season pass holders might have Special Bonuses - better places to eat, a wider selection of beverage at those places, and so on; just like a Flight Club Member. Which is fine. I don't think anyone would object to that. Disneyland makes the rules and if you want to enter the place, you abide by them, or do not enter.

What if, suddenly, Disneyland decided All non-season holders had to provide a criminal background check before entering? Would people do it? What about passing a drug test? A blood alcohol test?

Some would still do it and some wouldn't. Of those who do, it doesn't mean they are better people and less likly to do something bad inside, does it? And that's really what the fingerprinting is about... Supposedly stopping bad guys getting in.

Now, if that is its purpose, then my print does Not need to be recorded. It only needs to be Cross Referenced with the Do Not Permit Entry list, and then deleted when no match is found, doesn't it?

Again. I am not saying to treat all strangers as people one knows. But adding that, just because someone is a stranger doesn't mean they are a bad person and should be treated like a criminal, does it?

Michael Ross
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