Any copywriters out there?

...is what Steven W. Johnson already mentioned in his last post: PAYING your contributors.

Experienced copywriters who already have clients simply don't work for free. (They may, on occasion, do pro bono work for some organization they support, but that's a different situation than this one.)

Most of them also view anyone who asks them to work for free in a less-than-complimentary way. After all, you expect to make money from the book in which their information appears, don't you?

As for "exposure/credibility," I'm afraid that contribution to your book will do little or nothing to provide either. I'll tell you why.

If these contributors are working copywriters with active client lists, they already have plenty of credibility in the form of work samples and references from actual, paying clients. And the only exposure your book could provide is to wannabe copywriters. Since they want to learn the business themselves, do you think they're going to be in the market to hire a copywriter?

I'm not trying to put your idea down in any way, Darren, but rather attempting to present how your call for contributors can be perceived. Asking an experienced writer not only to write but provide guidance for FREE is disrespectful at the very least. It demeans both the writer and the craft.

The producers of the "Chicken Soup" books that you mentioned in a previous post do pay for the stories they accept (last I heard, I think[/i] it was around $200). So you might just get some contributors -- and valuable content -- if you offer at least a nominal fee of $50-$100.

Good luck with moving forward with your project.

Eve § :)

Eve,

Thank you for your comments. I must say that the responses on this forum have been much different to those forums I normally frequent. ;)

I am not aware of any contributor ebooks where the contributors were offered payment. The basis for marketer-to-marketer business is normally via JVs.

I have certain assets, they have certian assets which benefit us both and also the eventual customer/subscriber.

I see your point though and believe that is has some validity to it; however, I am quite happy with the contributors thus far, and who are not by any means unsuccessful in what they do.

Go to any successful online business and you will see that the savvy ones presell their services or product with a great deal of quality free information and guidance.

Thanks again for your comments.

Darren.

> ...is what Steven W. Johnson already
> mentioned in his last post: PAYING your
> contributors.

> Experienced copywriters who already have
> clients simply don't work for free. (They
> may, on occasion, do pro bono work for some
> organization they support, but that's a
> different situation than this one.)

> Most of them also view anyone who asks them
> to work for free in a
> less-than-complimentary way. After all, you
> expect to make money from the book in which
> their information appears, don't you?

> As for "exposure/credibility," I'm
> afraid that contribution to your book will
> do little or nothing to provide either. I'll
> tell you why.

> If these contributors are working
> copywriters with active client lists, they
> already have plenty of credibility in the
> form of work samples and references from
> actual, paying clients. And the only
> exposure your book could provide is to
> wannabe copywriters. Since they want to
> learn the business themselves, do you think
> they're going to be in the market to hire a
> copywriter?

> I'm not trying to put your idea down in any
> way, Darren, but rather attempting to
> present how your call for contributors can
> be perceived. Asking an experienced writer
> not only to write but provide guidance for
> FREE is disrespectful at the very least. It
> demeans both the writer and the craft.

> The producers of the "Chicken
> Soup" books that you mentioned in a
> previous post do pay for the stories they
> accept (last I heard, I think it was
> around $200). So you might just get some
> contributors -- and valuable content -- if
> you offer at least a nominal fee of
> $50-$100.

> Good luck with moving forward with your
> project.

> Eve § :)

Darren
Kinda surprising people spent less time advising you than criticizing you. Keep putting the word out, and the ones who are "insulted" will let you know. Others realize it's a marathon, not an event and will be happy to become a part of a viral activity.

Stay the course and remember when you come under attack, you're close to something good.

Blessings
Michael

> Eve,

> Thank you for your comments. I must say that
> the responses on this forum have been much
> different to those forums I normally
> frequent. ;)

> I am not aware of any contributor ebooks
> where the contributors were offered payment.
> The basis for marketer-to-marketer business
> is normally via JVs.

> I have certain assets, they have certian
> assets which benefit us both and also the
> eventual customer/subscriber.

> I see your point though and believe that is
> has some validity to it; however, I am quite
> happy with the contributors thus far, and
> who are not by any means unsuccessful in
> what they do.

> Go to any successful online business and you
> will see that the savvy ones presell their
> services or product with a great deal of
> quality free information and guidance.

> Thanks again for your comments.

> Darren.




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Michael -

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I'm developing a "tortoise vs. the hare" market timing method for getting rich in real estate. Being "persistent yet patient" is one of the key human attributes needed to profit from this method and your post gave me a few new and inspiring ideas.

Good post.

Robert Campbell


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