Robert Allen Apparently In Serious Condition

Anonymous -

(Not sure why you didn't post your name but whatever)

> That said, I think it my personal
> responsibility to inform anyone on this
> board how he is viewed by REAL real estate
> investors - further to show his actual
> record that few are aware of...

> (Btw, please don't think this as
> "bashing a guy while he's down" -
> I write this simply because I thought people
> on this board knew better than to follow the
> advice of charlatins)

Ah, yes. Good old John T. Reed. Have you ever noticed how Mr. Reed is the self-chosen "lone voice in the wilderness" thumping his chest and proclaiming that he does not recommend 95% of the "gurus"? I don't want to spend a lot of time dwelling on this. We've discussed Mr. Reed here in the past. But let's examine Mr. Reed's position in all of this. Does Mr. Reed stand to profit by bashing others? As a matter of fact, he does. It seems Mr. Reed sells his own real estate information. So he bashes others to get you to buy his information. Kinda makes his motives suspect, doesn't it?

I can't speak to all of the details about Mr. Allen. I don't know him personally and have not researched them. However, I do know this. Mr. Allen is not making his bankruptcy a secret. He comes right out and says it in his latest materials. Both he and Mark Victor Hansen readily admit that they have both been bankrupt.

One other point about Mr. Reed. Ron LeGrand is among the many people he bashes. I have met a number of people using Ron LeGrand's techniques to legally do quite well for themselves. Ron LeGrand's techniques are based on those of Robert Allen. Ron LeGrand himself says it was a Robert Allen seminar that got him started. There is *nothing* illegal that I can see about the no money down techniques taught by Ron LeGrand or his mentor, Robert Allen. Are there people who have gone to jail for taking advantage of people by twisting these techniques? You better believe it. William McCorkle was one of the most famous cases. And there were others. It's just like anything else. You can make of it what you will. To further make the point, Gary Halbert once went to prison because he didn't deliver on his promises. Does that make direct marketing illegal? Of course not.

Rick Smith, "The Net Guerrilla"