Do U Have The NERVE to Imitate a Billionaire at FastFood Lines?

[Glenn]

How I Got a F-r-e-e Cup of Chili (1.99)
by Giving Away A 1.00 LOTTO TICKET
In a Wendy's Fast Food Line...

Hi,

A Thank You Reward to Dien.

I play a game I Learned from watching billionaire Paul Meyer at a
investors meeting.

Something all of us can do IF you eat food.
Go into Fast Food Restaurants.
OR
Drive Thru the Fastfood line.

READY FOR A SHOCK?

It's different.

You Have to Do The Opposite of Everyone Else.

FIRST...

HERE'S WHAT I Saw PAUL MEYER Do...

Paul gave each one of us 100.00 in cash. Then gave a speech about how
much we could make by following his lead. (He'd just purchased a new company.)

I wasn't ready to invest 7 figures on his say-so.

But I DID Pay Attention.

Lots of people in the room DID INVEST.

Lots of folks.

Too many to be accidental!

So.

I started testing smaller ways to play the Billionaire Moolah Attraction Game.
Anywhere and Everywhere I buy retail. Especially food.

You are Welcome to TRY OUT my SURE FIRE...

GUARANTEED.

Take it to the Bank.

Way to Get F-r-e-e Food and Hugs and Royalty Treatment
AND EXTRA Moolah...

While driving thru the FastFood Drive-Thru Line at ANY Restaurant.

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PLEASE READ THIS SHORT CASE STUDY...
Then the Simple Action Summary Directions Below that.

WENDY'S CASE STUDY -

I drove into the Wendy’s drive thru at 8pm on Sunday. I never know what to order. So I asked the young sounding guy on the intrcom what salad he liked.

He talked about something Hawaiian and some kind of Taco Salad. I got that. I was all ready to hand the kid a LOTTO TICKET. But Wendy’s has two windows now.

Window #1 one guy took my 1/2 a Taco Salad order.
Window #2 a skinny dark haired dude with a small goatee tried to hand me a white paper bag.

But I stuck a Instant Scratch Off LOTTO TICKET, with a pink Pig on the front, in his face. Told him about the gas station attendant I’d bought it from winning sixty dollars.

“I’m sharing the wealth,” I said.

The wiry kid said, “Thank you, Sir.” in an amazed voice. Handed me Bag #1. Then Bag #2. I was still putting my munny away. And my lotto tickets. So I quickly parked the two bags on my passenger seat and drove away.

At a red light I peeked inside.

Bag #1 had a plastic container of salad, a fork plus 4 kinds of salad dressing and croutons. Bag #2 had a big 1.99 container of Chili inside.

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EXTRA MUNNY Action Plan:

Just Suppose you Want Extra MOOLAH instead of Extra Food.

Here's what works for lots of my clients and me.

Step I - Go thru the line and order a 99cent drink. Pay It Forward and Give
The Cashier a 1.00 LOTTO ticket. And say THANK YOU.

Step II - Go around again. Say, "I got hungry." Order something from the
99cent menu. FORK OVER another LOTTO TICKET.

Step III - Order a 99cent small fry -
(Hand out a 3rd LOTTO Ticket.)

Step IV - A 99cent Milk shake - and a LOTTO TICKET

Step V - A 99cent Apple Pie - and a LOTTO Ticket.

Let's ADD THIS Up.

5.00 in food and 5.00 in Scratch-off 1.00 LOTTO TICKETS.

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Your Guaranteed Results?

My Wendy's Case Study was my 1st visit to a New Place.

What do you GUESS Happens after Repeat Visits?

MAGIC HAPPENS - that's what.

a - You learn everyones names
b - Your coke isn't full of ice
c - Your portions are mounded up
d - You'll get EXTRA food in your Bag
e - Extra Napkins
f - Extra forks and spoons and catsup and mustard

g - After a few visits - You can Expect TWICE As much food as you ordered.
h - 1.00 bills, 5.00 bills, 10.00 bills in the bttm of your bag!
i - I'm not alone in finding 20.00 bills at the bttm of my food. (IF I catch it
I go back and return it. I don't want to get them fired - after all.)

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn

Email me at [email protected] - IF You Have the BRASS OVARIES to
TRY THIS and Get Extra Stuff - FREE.

Send me your success story and I'll THANK REWARD you with a F-r-e-e
copy of my 197.00 "PAY IT FORWARD System."

It comes with a **DOUBLE YOUR MUNNY** Back Guarantee.

WHY?
How can we possibly Afford to do that?

Because it turns every 1.00 bill in your FastFood Bag into a 100.00 bill.
(I Actually got 151.00 back by giving away the 1.00 LOTTO Ticket at Wendy's.
You can too. )

Here's the "PAY IT FORWARD link -

http://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=84

I personally find this appalling...

I may be wrong on this but in my world it is simply not the right thing to do....

So the kid (or employee lavishes you with free food, drinks, whatever)....who is paying for this....

The kid at the window gives you a 1.99 bowl of chili....is he going to remember to ring it in and pay for it out of his own pocket (especially if the ticket is a losing one)...even at an employee discount...probably not...it is going to come out of the owners pocket.....and if the kid doesn't pay then he has willingly stolen from the owner thereby jeopardizing his job....and with cameras everywhere and being monitored these days there is a good chance he will get caught.

Same with unauthorized discounts on food...it comes out of the owners pockets.

Morally and ethically I find this appalling.

Rebuttal of disagreement with my viewpoint is welcome...perhaps I am missing something here.

Cornell,

Part of Glenn's post says:

"i - I'm not alone in finding 20.00 bills at the bttm of my food. (IF I catch it
I go back and return it. I don't want to get them fired - after all.)"

As I re-read his post I don't believe he is saying to keep the money especially if it is coming from a low level employee like a cashier or counter person. Personally I would always return the cash. I don't want them fired either.

On the other side of the story, the pay it forward principle seems to be a workable principle. At the very least, how can it hurt anyone if you tip a $1 or a $1 lottery ticket.

I've also noticed a smile and pleasant demeanor works on some of the grouchiest bastards in the world. I think those are paying it forward units as well so I use them.

As far as morals and ethics, I'll defer to the politicians for a definition.

Have a great day...

Tom

[Dien Rice]

Originally Posted by Cornell

I personally find this appalling...

I may be wrong on this but in my world it is simply not the right thing to do....

So the kid (or employee lavishes you with free food, drinks, whatever)....who is paying for this....

The kid at the window gives you a 1.99 bowl of chili....is he going to remember to ring it in and pay for it out of his own pocket (especially if the ticket is a losing one)...even at an employee discount...probably not...it is going to come out of the owners pocket.....and if the kid doesn't pay then he has willingly stolen from the owner thereby jeopardizing his job....and with cameras everywhere and being monitored these days there is a good chance he will get caught.

Same with unauthorized discounts on food...it comes out of the owners pockets.

Morally and ethically I find this appalling.

Rebuttal of disagreement with my viewpoint is welcome...perhaps I am missing something here.

Hi Cornell,

I don't know the whole story, of course (probably only the employee does), but...

In any restaurant business, including fast food restaurants, there are certain conditions in which they will have to throw out the food.

For example, if food is heated, and it's near the end of the night - if they don't sell it that night, it will be thrown out.

Glenn said he went there around 8 pm or so. It's possible that chili, if it wasn't sold that night, would be thrown out anyway (as they can't keep it around in a heated condition, and sell it tomorrow)...

So - it was still good chili. It may have been near closing time. So - Glenn did a nice thing for the employee, and he ended up getting something "extra" for free. But Wendy's may have made no loss, since if it wasn't going to a customer that night, it would have just been thrown out.

Anyway, I don't know how Wendy's specifically operate - but I've gotten free "extra" food from some restaurants near closing time, just for that reason... If they didn't give it to someone, it would just be thrown out (even though the food was still good).

It's not really the customer's responsibility (in my opinion) to figure out how every restaurant works, and whether what a staff person does is "allowed" by their rules or not... If the staff person does it, I would assume it's allowed.

The lesson, though, is the important thing - which is, if you do something nice for others, they'll often do something nice for you in return!

I think it's a great lesson...

Best wishes,

Dien

Dien siad:

"The lesson, though, is the important thing - which is, if you do something nice for others, they'll often do something nice for you in return!

I think it's a great lesson..."

I fully realize I'm only picking specific parts of a larger post in both of my replies but I think Dien's words pretty much hit the nail on the head.

On the other hand one could argue Glenn set up the clerks and cashiers so he can get extra goodies by giving them a dollar the first time he met them. But, he would have to know beforehand that he could manipulate these people in that manner.

Therefore, IMHO, if he is manipulating them for personal gain and that is his sole objective, Dien's words aren't exactly appllicable. Since his post and included link don't run that route, I tend to believe Dien's words are applicable.

Just my rambling 2¢...

Tom

[Dien Rice]

Originally Posted by Glenn

I play a game I Learned from watching billionaire Paul Meyer at a
investors meeting.

Something all of us can do IF you eat food.
Go into Fast Food Restaurants.
OR
Drive Thru the Fastfood line.

READY FOR A SHOCK?

It's different.

You Have to Do The Opposite of Everyone Else.

FIRST...

HERE'S WHAT I Saw PAUL MEYER Do...

Paul gave each one of us 100.00 in cash. Then gave a speech about how
much we could make by following his lead. (He'd just purchased a new company.)

I wasn't ready to invest 7 figures on his say-so.

But I DID Pay Attention.

Lots of people in the room DID INVEST.

Lots of folks.

Too many to be accidental!

So.

I started testing smaller ways to play the Billionaire Moolah Attraction Game.
Anywhere and Everywhere I buy retail.

[...]

Here's the "PAY IT FORWARD link -

http://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=84

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for sharing this example from Paul Meyer...

I do believe it would work - that giving each person $100, would mean it would be more likely they would go and buy his product, even if it cost many multiples of $100...

It's a great principle to test and use...

In the direct mail field, they sometimes call it a "freemium" (a combination of a "free premium")... Here's a good article about it...

http://www.targetmarketingmag.com/ar...5-words-28320#

However, what Glenn's post really shows that this principle works everywhere! A "free gift" - even a small one - will often lead to an improved response...

Personally, I like receiving free gifts...

I should give them out more!

Best wishes,

Dien

Hi Dien and Tom:

Tom:

I am really not trying to nitpick here.

I am not opposed to tipping...we all do it...and if we are regulars we generally get friendlier service and a little more attention than others ...especially if we are good tippers....but is that the prime reason for tipping? Or is it because the people really rely on tips because they are paid a lower wage because they are expected to collect tips...and if they do their job well they deserve it?

And I agree money should be returned.

What I found disconcerting was the idea of doing this "expressly for the purpose" of getting something in return....and in the case of the food probably at the expense of the owner and perhaps the employee's job.

I have fired people for giving things away with out express permission to do so. In fact my daughter is a supervisor at a fast food and an employee there was recently terminated for handing out a cookie for free.

Dien:

I caught the lesson....I do an awful lot of pro bono work every week....it is the old saying - what goes around comes around - most of the time.

And yes many of the food places have guidelines for throwing out food and they also have guidelines about giving it away because of liability...but no matter the case... until the clock points to the hour and minute for disposal that food remains the property of the owner and is a profit item that is to be sold.

Now if the person says thanks for the ticket and gives the customer something in return of his own that is one thing...also if the person pays for the giveaway that is acceptable...but to give away his employer's goods - unless authorized to do so is ....well......in my eyes that is theft.

I also have had establishments offer something free just before closing ...saying that they were just going to throw it out anyhow....but it was after the deadline....whether they had permission to do so or not is unknown...but I had to presume so.

I guess it is up to the individual to decide on this...the lesson is good...the "reason" for doing it does not sit well with me.

Let's leave it at that.

Cornell

Cornell,

I think we understand each other. I live in the town of eternal tips, Reno NV. You can't go into an establishment and NOT see a tip jar

As an example, we frequent only 2 restaurants in town and the wait staff knows us. In fact, we generally always ask for the wait person by name. To date, my 20+% tip has gotten me great service but no freebies.

I'm not bragging about the size of the tip, I'm saying I bought that level of service. Under the op's post, this great tip was supposed to get me freebies. I would suspect it does in some areas. Not here.

Truth is, I bet (pun intended) if I tried that $1 approach in the dollar store three blocks from my house, the cashier would give it back to me. I don't see her giving me an extra bag of chips or cookies simply because I gave her a dollar.

On the other hand in other cities, the tipper may indeed get something. Your point about ownership is certainly spot on. I don't have employees but if I did and they started giving away my product they would no longer be employees.

OK, here is the bottom line. The theory must have worked in other cities for other people but it hasn't worked for me in this city.

As a side note, we live about 10 mis from the CA line and CA has a lottery ticket sales store on the border (imagine that). I will be out that way this Sat so I will stop in and buy 10 lottery tickets and try the op's proposal.

If it works, I'll say so. If it doesn't, well you know what I won't say.

Have a great day

Tom

Why not suspend judgement and go buy $20 worth of Lotto tickets to tip with and treat it as an experiment, see what happens and report back on your findings?

You just may be surprised at what happens and you have the option of refusing any extras.

I seldom ever go to a fast food place anymore but when I use to my order would very often be wrong anyway so I see no harm in testing the idea out.

As to whether or not it's morally wrong would depend on the intention and its not kool to judge someones intentions even if you are a mind reader and think you know for sure what the givers intentions truly are.... Personally I don't believe Glen does this to get something for nothing.

I think he does it to wake people up and break the hypnotic trance most of them are lost in and make real connections with real people!

Cheers,
Steve

[Dien Rice]

Hi Cornell and everyone,

Originally Posted by Cornell

What I found disconcerting was the idea of doing this "expressly for the purpose" of getting something in return....and in the case of the food probably at the expense of the owner and perhaps the employee's job.

I have fired people for giving things away with out express permission to do so. In fact my daughter is a supervisor at a fast food and an employee there was recently terminated for handing out a cookie for free.

And yes many of the food places have guidelines for throwing out food and they also have guidelines about giving it away because of liability...but no matter the case... until the clock points to the hour and minute for disposal that food remains the property of the owner and is a profit item that is to be sold.

Thanks Cornell - I completely respect your point of view.

One way I see it is that, businesses give out "freebies" all the time, with the express purpose of getting more business.

What's more "unusual" here is that it is the customer now doing it. But if businesses can give out a "freebie", then why not customers, too?

(The difference with tipping is that restaurant staff expect to be tipped, whereas Glenn's idea is completely surprising and unexpected...)

"Giving" something also doesn't have to be material. Some people give genuine compliments, because they know it will improve their success.

One example could be a romantic date. The guy knows (it might be subconsciously) that if he genuinely compliments something about his date to her, then the date will be more likely to end positively. Does that make it a bad thing to do? (I think most guys would be guilty, if it were a crime to give a compliment to your date...)

I think in many cases, these kinds of "favors" we give become ingrained in us as habits.

These are all just variants on "reciprocity"... It works because it is built deeply into our inner human psychology.

By the way, I'm reading a very interesting book at the moment about Japanese culture. This book says that giving gifts is built into Japanese culture, because the gift-giver then knows that they can get a favor in return at some point from the recipient, if they need it.

(If someone doesn't like to be "obligated" after receiving a gift, they know that to no longer have the obligation, they should give some kind of gift in return back to the gift-giver as soon as possible. Once they give a gift in return, they know that they no longer have any obligation...)

Now if the person says thanks for the ticket and gives the customer something in return of his own that is one thing...also if the person pays for the giveaway that is acceptable...but to give away his employer's goods - unless authorized to do so is ....well......in my eyes that is theft.

I also have had establishments offer something free just before closing ...saying that they were just going to throw it out anyhow....but it was after the deadline....whether they had permission to do so or not is unknown...but I had to presume so.

I guess it is up to the individual to decide on this...the lesson is good...the "reason" for doing it does not sit well with me.

Let's leave it at that.

Cornell

If there is a person at "fault" here (which I don't think we know completely for sure, since we don't know all the conditions), then it was the employee's fault for doing something he shouldn't have... Also, while in this case he's probably an employee (because of his youth), in other cases it could often be the restaurant owner (as, to my understanding, it is not uncommon for restaurant owners work in their own restaurants). When this has happened to me, I never really thought about it, but I always assumed that it was the business owner who was serving me and who was giving me the free stuff. (When this has happened to me, it's usually at independently-owned take-away type restaurants.)

There were places I knew in the past that would "regularly" give you additional free stuff with your order... And yeah, I kept going back! (This was when I lived in a different area from where I live now.)

There is one "fish and chips" store near where I live, which is probably the most expensive "fish and chips" store in the area. However, they are probably the most successful too. A couple things they do is, (1) they do have higher quality food, for example, their frying oil seems fresher and better quality than the other ones, and (2) they often seem to give you a little bit extra with your order, that you didn't ask for, for free. (I don't go there often, though, because I don't like eating too much fried food - I'm more health-conscious now than I used to be...)

Anyway... back to the more general topic...

The topic of "reciprocity" has come up now and then... But what I like is that these are completely new "angles" on the standard lessons...!

From one of the earlier discussions here (several years ago), the following link was posted... This is an article about a guy who used reciprocity to get a convicted murderer, who happened to be a serial killer, to confess to his other murders...

One of the "tools" which was used was doing favors for the serial killer... Like getting the murderer an independent medical checkup he wanted, getting him a specific book he wanted to read, etc.

Is it ethical to do favors for a serial killer? The end result was they got more confessions, and this helped to bring "closure" to the families of some of the victims...

Serial Murder, He Wrote
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug...tion/na-hess10

(The article is 4 pages long - the links to the next pages are at the end of page 1. The part about doing favors for the serial killer is at the start of page 3.)

Anyway, it's a good read... It was first posted on Sowpub here...

Best wishes,

Dien