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Old May 25, 2017, 03:53 AM
unpinkpanther unpinkpanther is offline
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Default And THAT'S the point...

...It is complex stuff!

I understand a currency to be a medium of exchange to make transactions easier.

Why should I use a cryptocurrency instead of good ol' cash?

That's the part I don't get.



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It's very complex stuff, though... I'm still in the process of getting my head around it!

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Old May 25, 2017, 09:42 AM
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Talking Re: And THAT'S the point...

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...It is complex stuff!

I understand a currency to be a medium of exchange to make transactions easier.

Why should I use a cryptocurrency instead of good ol' cash?

That's the part I don't get.

It's easy not to understand. Most people don't know that the phrase "full faith and credit" is nothing more than a ruse. The government has NO source of value. Only people do. That means you are the backing for your currency. Look at Cyprus just to name one country in the news because of their finances.

Suppose you had money in a Cyprus bank and suppose you had Bitcoin. Which do you think the Cyprus government could/would take from you?

Which currency held its value in the world market?

If I understand correctly you are from Nigeria. What backs your cash?

That's a short and sweet answer. If I were inclined I'd educate myself on the blockchain technology. From what I read, the techie types w/knowledge of the programs/codes in this area are in demand and get paid accordingly.

Trouble is at 72 if it isn't handed to me I don't want it
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Old May 25, 2017, 09:56 AM
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Default Another thought in line w/digital currency

“Gold is the currency of kings, silver is the currency of the educated,
barter is the currency of the working-class, and debt is the currency of slaves.”

If your country has a national bank (ours is the Federal Reserve) you are a slave. In this day and age, slave is a very politically incorrect word. In fact, say it on a college campus and you're likely to start a riot.

However one institution doesn't mind rubbing your nose in it. Yep, your friendly government. Might be another reason to think long and hard about digital currency.

Just saying...
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Old May 25, 2017, 10:24 AM
unpinkpanther unpinkpanther is offline
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Default Maybe I used the wrong word...

Thanks, sandalwood. I'm enjoying this conversation.

Maybe I used the wrong word by mentioning "cash".

Yes, the Central Bank issues its IOU here too, just like the Federal Reserve.

But do you think all transactions must use these IOUs?

Barter is alive and well today. Many LEGIT transactions go on without government-issued fiat currency.

I agree that the government mustn't dabble into EVERY legal transaction. (And by definition, they can't; they're too tied up in red tape to do that)

However, much of what I hear of Bitcoin reminds me of the scare-mongering of LibertyReserve, a digital currency that was the rave some years ago.

But it's always good to be informed. Beats hiding one's head in the sand...

Thank you


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“Gold is the currency of kings, silver is the currency of the educated,
barter is the currency of the working-class, and debt is the currency of slaves.”

If your country has a national bank (ours is the Federal Reserve) you are a slave. In this day and age, slave is a very politically incorrect word. In fact, say it on a college campus and you're likely to start a riot.

However one institution doesn't mind rubbing your nose in it. Yep, your friendly government. Might be another reason to think long and hard about digital currency.

Just saying...
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Old May 25, 2017, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Maybe I used the wrong word...

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Thanks, sandalwood. I'm enjoying this conversation.

Maybe I used the wrong word by mentioning "cash".

Yes, the Central Bank issues its IOU here too, just like the Federal Reserve.

But do you think all transactions must use these IOUs?

Barter is alive and well today. Many LEGIT transactions go on without government-issued fiat currency.

I agree that the government mustn't dabble into EVERY legal transaction. (And by definition, they can't; they're too tied up in red tape to do that)

However, much of what I hear of Bitcoin reminds me of the scare-mongering of LibertyReserve, a digital currency that was the rave some years ago.

But it's always good to be informed. Beats hiding one's head in the sand...

Thank you

Here you go brother: https://cointelegraph.com/news/austr...esses-no-taxes

Read that article and tell me you won't be using Bitcoin, or some other digital currency, in the next 5 years.

As for barter, it is taxable in the United States. I don't know about your country but here our great generous and kind Uncle wants a piece. As for legit transactions happening I agree. The kicker in that soup is the size of the transaction. Once you get beyond a certain amount, $600 sounds like the figure, bingo! you better be reporting your transactions. Please don't believe me. Google barter IRS manual and read it for yourself.

As for the red tape: Never forget the government has forever to get untied if they really want you. Again, don't believe me. Google collecting rain in a water barrel and read it for yourself.

I don't know this for sure but I would bet dollars against donuts that the intent of the founders of the program you cited differs from the intent of the founders of Bitcoin. Again, just my guess.

Venezuela. That's all I'll say about that particular jackpot and digital currency.

Have a great weekend.
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