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Old May 25, 2017, 10:24 AM
unpinkpanther unpinkpanther is offline
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Default Maybe I used the wrong word...

Thanks, sandalwood. I'm enjoying this conversation.

Maybe I used the wrong word by mentioning "cash".

Yes, the Central Bank issues its IOU here too, just like the Federal Reserve.

But do you think all transactions must use these IOUs?

Barter is alive and well today. Many LEGIT transactions go on without government-issued fiat currency.

I agree that the government mustn't dabble into EVERY legal transaction. (And by definition, they can't; they're too tied up in red tape to do that)

However, much of what I hear of Bitcoin reminds me of the scare-mongering of LibertyReserve, a digital currency that was the rave some years ago.

But it's always good to be informed. Beats hiding one's head in the sand...

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“Gold is the currency of kings, silver is the currency of the educated,
barter is the currency of the working-class, and debt is the currency of slaves.”

If your country has a national bank (ours is the Federal Reserve) you are a slave. In this day and age, slave is a very politically incorrect word. In fact, say it on a college campus and you're likely to start a riot.

However one institution doesn't mind rubbing your nose in it. Yep, your friendly government. Might be another reason to think long and hard about digital currency.

Just saying...
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Old May 25, 2017, 03:51 PM
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Thanks, sandalwood. I'm enjoying this conversation.

Maybe I used the wrong word by mentioning "cash".

Yes, the Central Bank issues its IOU here too, just like the Federal Reserve.

But do you think all transactions must use these IOUs?

Barter is alive and well today. Many LEGIT transactions go on without government-issued fiat currency.

I agree that the government mustn't dabble into EVERY legal transaction. (And by definition, they can't; they're too tied up in red tape to do that)

However, much of what I hear of Bitcoin reminds me of the scare-mongering of LibertyReserve, a digital currency that was the rave some years ago.

But it's always good to be informed. Beats hiding one's head in the sand...

Thank you

Here you go brother: https://cointelegraph.com/news/austr...esses-no-taxes

Read that article and tell me you won't be using Bitcoin, or some other digital currency, in the next 5 years.

As for barter, it is taxable in the United States. I don't know about your country but here our great generous and kind Uncle wants a piece. As for legit transactions happening I agree. The kicker in that soup is the size of the transaction. Once you get beyond a certain amount, $600 sounds like the figure, bingo! you better be reporting your transactions. Please don't believe me. Google barter IRS manual and read it for yourself.

As for the red tape: Never forget the government has forever to get untied if they really want you. Again, don't believe me. Google collecting rain in a water barrel and read it for yourself.

I don't know this for sure but I would bet dollars against donuts that the intent of the founders of the program you cited differs from the intent of the founders of Bitcoin. Again, just my guess.

Venezuela. That's all I'll say about that particular jackpot and digital currency.

Have a great weekend.
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