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Old November 5, 2015, 05:36 PM
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Default Products for losers.

Going way back to High School, in my class on Salesmanship I was a standout student, a rare feat for me because I had a .57 gpa. But was a 4.0 in this class...until...

we had a week on HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE and I argued with the teacher, for a couple of days until he got peeved enough to send me to study hall...

I said, at 18, what kind of friends are they if you have to win them?

IF you have to use manipulation and technique just to make a friend, then you were a loser (I argued, not seeing the bigger picture of being liked vs being a friend).

I thought friendship was a two way mutual respect street and done without any manipulation. Anyhow,

Unless it is for academic study, I feel those guys who attend seminars and spend hundreds or thousands on PUA products are LOSERS.

If a guy doesn't think he has any thing of VALUE to offer to the ladies, why not just take a paycheck and go down to the red light district or these days on backpage and get your needs taken care of.

IF you need strategy, methods, techniques and NLP or hypnosis or even the Bill Cosby way, drugs...to get laid

you are a loser. And it is more about power than sex anyhow.

Women? If they are ready, willing and able...then don't have to say a word just nod.

LOSERS have no respect, and try to win affection and influence babes with technique, and manipulation has no greater showcase than in the PUA field, to call them an "pick up artist" does a real disservice to the arts.

So, I call them losers. If you loathe yourself that much and you need to pull a "Mind Cosby" (using NLP/psychology or technique) you really aren't much better than Cosby, are you?

The secret to bedding women is simple...be the guy they WANT to bed, and not some Azzhole trying to trick them into thinking you have something inside when you are nothing but an empty shell.

Just my thoughts on this.

Gordon Alexander


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Thanks Dien,

When I met Hollywood Bartender Bryan Redfield
his marketing was 100% barter.

He mailed a copy of his book, "Bartenders Guide on How to Pick up Women"
to Radio DJ's.

And 100% of the time they'd contact him
and he got a Free Radio Interview.

Barter a Book for a 30 minute Radio Interview
where tens of thousands of people listen in.

Book orders followed.

VERY SIMPLE.

I got Bryans OK to Resell his book and send him 50% of the
profits. But it wasn't enough munny to bother with.

So I created My OWN Product. (6 hrs of "Live" Audio Case Studies of Women, Waitresses, Barmaids, Clerks in stores - You can HEAR the Girls PAINTING
And Out-of-Breath - After running Across a Sports bar over to me.
Or Jogging Back to my Restaurant Table. I was really into The MAD SCIENTIST
aspects of Testing.)

Adapted his Hot Headline:

Headline - "Bartenders Guide on How to Make Women JUMP V#1"

Subhead - "How to Make Hot Women Run Over to You"

FUNNY RESULTS.

Women Got the BEST RESULTS from the 6 Hrs of LIVE
mp3 Audio Book Contents.

Over and over again I got GLOWING emails
and phone calls from Coeds and Women Entrepreneurs
Who were CLOBBERING the men around them
Into Submission.

Invisibly.

Without the men knowing What the Gals were doing.

VERY Satisfying to hear the Ladies
doing so well.

Thanks,
Glenn

P.S. - Here's the link to the Email letter that sold so many CD's
And mp3 books...

THE CONTENT Turned out to Be TOO DANGEROUS
to Casually Sell willy nilly. (Seemed Safe and Fun at the time.)

So Now I Only Sell to VIP Inner Circle members
Who can pass my Test at NLPBrainBuzz.com
And thus Qualify for 90% off.

http://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=25
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Old November 5, 2015, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: How Barter Got Dave 30%-50% of the Junk He Sells at his JunkYard

I'm with you Gordon. I tried to read one of these so called, PU books, back a few years when the so called PU market was hot...(isn't it always?)...anyway...because I had read somewhere that there was good insight about copywriting by reading the book. Yeah...uh huh...I couldn't get past a few pages of "technique" and my "GUT RADAR" told me..."waste of time"..."NO GO"..."BS"..."MOVE ON"...etc. And then...One day, while eating my Penn Station Sub Sandwich, some dude, in a booth...front of mine, starts using one of these lame "techniques"...something about using movies and the last one you watched...and to practice on ANYONE, just to get over the anxiety of TALKING to SOMEONE....anyway...it was written ALL OVER HIS FACE...LOSER. Couldn't agree more.
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Old November 6, 2015, 07:08 PM
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Default Met a Sex Shop Owner Who Barters with BACON Condom Biz Cards

Thanks Gordon,

As you know - to make munny as an entrepreneur
you watch what is SELLING Like Crazy and create
something Similar but better.

"PAIN Relief" Sells Like Crazy - I've got products and Exercises so good
I Guarantee them.

"Munny Making Ideas" Sell Like Crazy - I've got a few dozen collections
in that niche.

"Flirt Stuff" Sells Like Crazy - So in order to TEST Ideas
Our Billionaire Watching Group sees dozens of the super rich using
to take our munny - WE HIDE Each idea inside a FLIRT STRATEGY.

Give The FLIRT IDEA
AWAY - then collect all
The Different Applications from around
the world into a book - and then SELL it.

Men and women who would NEVER risk a new s-ales tactic
on a client cuz it might Cost them a sale - Luv luv luv to FLIRT test
Powerful New Ideas.

And while we are speaking about
FLIRTING and SEX.

I met this Character who owns an Adult Store
years ago at a Gary Halbert event in Key West.

He was BARTERING Free Condoms
for new clients.

1st - He had his ph # and address on the side of the package

2nd - Gerald had Banana, orange, Whiskey and I think I got a
Red one that was supposed to taste like Strawberries.

I just spotted a new trend - BACON FLAVORED CONDOMS. Not sure
that flavor was around back then.

Was his Barter Biz Card combo working for him?

EDUCATED GUESS.

HELL YES.

In addition to all the trappings of wealth, clothes, rings, expensive wife.

Gerald sprung for F-r-e-e Condom Biz Cards
for the ENTIRE Room.

And told me he takes boxes and boxes to
all the events he attends. And he goes to ONE a month.

NOT something you do if it isn't PAYING OFF.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old November 6, 2015, 07:56 PM
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Default Can't wait for the drug dealer barter story

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As you know - to make munny as an entrepreneur
you watch what is SELLING Like Crazy and create
something Similar but better.

NOT something you do if it isn't PAYING OFF.

Thanks,
Glenn

Like in Breaking Bad, a better drug.

Manny the dealer in Miami, who sold vials of coke to his marketing comrades, figured out, if he went to seminars, he could package his Crystal Blue Persuasion into an auto ship program...

get their cc while they are high, they won't know what hit em.

Call it whatever you want, Pick Up Artists are LOSERS. And if it is ONLY about making munny...

then have at it.
Gordon
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Old November 9, 2015, 12:31 AM
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Default The Barter Sales System Billionaire Paul Meyer Got From Muhammad Ali

Thanks Dien,

Barter - Value for Value.

Swapping goods or service for other goods or services
without using munny.

Early in his career Cassius Clay was surrounded by strangers. In order
to turn them into Friends he did a LOT of Experimenting.

Discovered He could Make folks FEEL IMPORTANT
by taking an Instant Photo of them.

Paul Meyer Made Many MILLIONS of dollars with the idea
because he Personally taught 100% of the sales people in
all 32 of his companies THIS IDEA.

I used the idea today at a fruit stand.
The little coed started telling me all about
her family. Her boyfriend. Her work plans.

All we did was Say, "I Really LIKE that Sweater. Where did you get it.
Let me take a Photo."

Then I showed it to her on the Phone.

TRUE.

In Paul Meyers Day they used a REAL Instant Camera.
That printed out an actual photo.

But.

Muhammad Ali tested this way BEFORE us. HE discovered the INSTANT
FRIENDSHIP and RAPPORT effect was the same - even when his camera
was EMPTY.

He kept clicking away.

So even tho you cannot GIVE the prospect
the photo.

They REMEMBER you.

They LIKE You.

And Once you have created INSTANT PHOTO RAPPORT
they are much more likely to buy from you.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old November 10, 2015, 12:27 AM
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Default Golden Rule BARTER got Me 25 Bucks of Free Liquid Lightning

Thanks Gordon,

I really, really DISLIKE all the Badly written Product Labels.

Most Labels SEEM to Lie or Try to cover up the Truth.

So a little thing
Like an "Understandable Quick Energy Drink Label." (No caffeine)

SEEMS IMPORTANT TO ME.

Long Story-Short - I called a mentor
and Expert Nutritionist
and book author for help.

Here is the Original Label on the Bottle.

Clear as mud...

==================
Liquid Lightning Ingredients:

Water -
Natural apple Sweetener -
Apple Juice concentrate
Green tea Extract -
Organic Non GMO Cultured Dextrose -
Blueberry Powder -
Citric acid -
Citicoline - Cognizin -
Ribose
L-Carnosine
L-alanyl-L-glutamine (Sustamine)
Eleuthero root
Microalgae Extract (Aph. flos-aquae)
Natural flavors
BlueBerry Extract
L-Leucine

====================
MY Re-Written Version -

Liquid Lightning Ingredients:

Water - Purified Spring water
Natural apple Sweetener - concentrated apple juice (Non-GMO)
Apple Juice concentrate - (Non-GMO - From Germany)
Green tea Extract - (Green Tea Boiled down so it is Stronger)
Organic Non GMO Cultured Dextrose - Dextrose is Sugar made from
Non-Genetically Modified Corn
Blueberry Powder - Dried Whole Blueberries
Citric acid - From Vitamin C
Citicoline - Cognizin -A natural nutrient found in every cell of the body, vital to brain health.
Ribose--a simple sugar good for heart health
L-Carnosine--an amino acid needed for brain chemistry
L-alanyl-L-glutamine (Sustamine)--two amino acids that together help your gut and stamina
Eleuthero root--used for over 4000 years to help reduce stress
Microalgae Extract (Aph. flos-aquae)
Natural flavors-from plants
BlueBerry Extract
L-Leucine--an amino acid that helps muscle recovery.

==========
ACTION SUMMARY -

I like to Hand (Or Snail Mail) People F-r-e-e Samples of items
that WORK FAST but don't have Caffeine in them.

AFTER I Personally Test
Them on myself and Friends.

Before or After - show Folks the list of Ingredients.

Turns out Barb - the Lady Who helped
me Rewrite the Product Label - AGREES.

She just sent me 25.00 of Samples
of the Extra Energy Drink.

No munny involved Yet.

So We Bartered a Clear English
Product Label for a 1/2 box of "Liquid Lightning" (Name changed)

Thanks,
Glenn

P.S. - You might think this is a 1-off-experience. But this happens a lot.
Soon You EXPECT Good things to happen when you go
the Extra 100 Miles with your Barter Giving.
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Old November 10, 2015, 12:18 PM
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Default How Jay Abraham Bartered w/Tony Robbins To Do a Joint Venture

Thanks Dien,

So How do The Marketing Geniuses We LEARNED from Create
the TRUST necessary to set up Joint Venture and Endorsement Deals?

They Go The Extra 100 Miles With BARTER!

I Discovered this BARTER STORY
because I was on the inside - Practicing my Telephone Salesmanship
and NLP Rapport - by Telemarketing Tony Robbins List for Jay.

I ended up Closing 1.2 million in seminar sales.

But NONE of that would have happened
if Tony hadn't agreed to share his list.

A - Endorse Jay and his Protege seminar.

B - Do a 50/50 split JV

C - Give Jay his list to tele-market

D - Mail an Endorsement Letter to his list about Jay

How IMPORTANT was Barter to the deal?

BARTER #1 -

Jay Tripled Sales of one of Tony's best Munny Making Sales Letters.

NO
CHARGE

Then...

Tony said, "Ok, See if you Can BEAT my Control Letter. The best of the best
of my munny making offers.

Jay Beat Tony's Control by 1.5 Million dollars.

NO
CHARGE.

AND AFTERWARDS - Tony said, "Ok, Ok. I'm impressed. Let's do that
Joint Venture that is making munny for others.

This is called Go-The-Extra 100 Mile Barter.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old November 15, 2015, 02:27 PM
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Default Barter Idea from A Retired Senator Quadrupled a Clients Business

Thanks Dien,

So how might a Retired State Senator make Millions
in business - you ask?

He uses Legal Blackmail.

This character owns a Paint and Asbestos Abatement company.

Below is his ONLY Marketing.

I - He mails a 100 business owners in a neighborhood
an offer - which includes a Magazine article.

II - The Article AND his follow up phone call
mention how costly it is to Be FINED for not starting a clean-up effort.

III - Then he forwards the Name, Ph #, Address of the biz
owners who say "NO" to the State Lead Paint or Asbestos Inspectors.

IV - Who happily show up and Levy a 15,000.00 fine
per month - Per Building - that no action is taken.

V - Biz owners are forced to Hire this SOB.

(Editors Note - My Guess is the Former Senator doesn't even have to
pay the inspectors - under the table - or at ALL. Because they have some kind
of quota and can be Sure that ANY address he sends them - is Breaking the
Lead Paint or Asbestos Law. And they can fill their quota with the least effort
possible.)
=========
=========
Based on this Aspect of Human Nature.

LAZY.

We helped a New Business Owner BARTER with the Highway Patrol in Several
States that passed a New Law. All Truck drivers are required to be checked
for Drug Use - monthly.

Big Companies do it in-house.

The little guys - NOT.

So Terry devised a plan where the little trucking companies
could sign up to his service And MAIL in their samples.

HOW DO YOU SELL IT WITH NO MUNNY?

You Rely on Human Nature.

We Figured that the Highway Patrol DID NOT WANT to fill out paperwork.
Be the Bad Guy. Come back and back to Check on each Trucking Co Owner.

So.

We created a F_R_E_E Drug Testing Packet
they could hand out to Trucking company owners instead.

Say, "Instead of fining you. Filling out paper-work in triplicate.
Then coming back and Checking on you. Here is a company that does
all the compliance work FOR you. Call them now and we'll forget
I stopped one of your truckers without his state drug-testing license."

Son of a gun
it worked like a charm.

Terry doubled his sales - then doubled again.

Last we spoke it looked like several other states
were passing similar laws.

So Terry may need a truck to carry his munny
from his home business - to the bank.

Thanks,
Glenn

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Old November 15, 2015, 10:02 PM
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Default Manure for Deer - How We Barter Out Here in The Country

Thanks Gordon,

Ding Dong - door bell rings.

The Neighbors Deer Hunting partner is at the door.

Can we have Your Permission to Hunt deer on your property.

I said, "Sure, but I want something in return."

He says, "What's that?

I say, "I'm creating some raised bed Gardens and need manure. Is it
Ok for me to drive over to the barnyard and fill up some buckets
with cow manure. You have a 100 ton pile of it over there."

He says, "I think that will be ok."

I reply, "OK, if I don't hear back from you That Means "Yes."

So.

I have an unlimited cow manure supply for gardening.

"Unlimited" means More than I'll ever use
in My lifetime of Gardening.

Thanks,
Glenn

P.S. - Wanna see something FUNNY?

Here is a Link to 20 lb bags of Steer Manure.

15.00 a bag.

I'll easily use 2 tons each summer.

That's 3000.00 Worth!

http://www.amazon.com/Hoffman-21045-...=bagged+manure
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Old November 16, 2015, 11:51 AM
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Default 1.8 Billion Guinness World Record Insurance Sales BARTER SYSTEM

Thanks Dien,

I've read Ben Feldmans book.

And the book by his Insurance Sales Manager.

Ben had multiple Barter Systems he used to Get in to see a business owner.

MY FAVORITE...

Ben Gets in to see one of the wealthiest business owners in his City
By Showing How His Research on a customer PROVES that the man
is going to NEED more of the RICH Business Owners Products/services.

AND says, "When you call the next Client I can help with Insurance. I'll Report
back to you with Proof he has been Helped. And tell you which of your
Programs he is ready to order Next.

BARTER!

Ben Bartered Info The RICH MAN didn't have
to make a sale to his own customer.

THEN Got The Man to Call and Make an appointment FOR BEN
With the next guy - so Ben could do it Again.

And again.

Repeatedly thru the man's entire top 20% client list.

Brilliant Win - Win - Win Barter System.

1.8 billion of insurance sold.

Thanks,
Glenn

P.S. - Did you know Ben Feldman created and sold the First 100 million
dollar insurance Policy?

And Ben teamed with his Wife - Created the Mastermind of 2 Brains that
Boiled down complex Insurance and Financial Data to ONE PAGE.

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