$300 A day business but no idea how to market it

Cornell...thank you for taking time to write.

I never get offended by constructive criticism.

You've offered me some great advice and an offer I just cannot refuse...so yes, please count me in.

With regards to the domain name, I've done a lot of reading specifically about how Google search algorithm operates and what I have learned is that Google no longer looks at keywords in the domain name because of the numerous abuses. Instead, the search engine looks for keywords in the title and content of the page. Even metadata is no longer looked at because that too can be easily abused.

Thanks
-Samir

Originally Posted by Samir

Thanks Marty...those are some good domain names. It would certainly help to have relevant keywords as part of the domain name.

To clarify, it would help to have keywords as part of the domain name so that it's easier to remember but please see my reply to Cornell on why I think it wouldn't help me from SEO perspective.

Originally Posted by Samir

Cornell...thank you for taking time to write.

I never get offended by constructive criticism.

You've offered me some great advice and an offer I just cannot refuse...so yes, please count me in.

With regards to the domain name, I've done a lot of reading specifically about how Google search algorithm operates and what I have learned is that Google no longer looks at keywords in the domain name because of the numerous abuses. Instead, the search engine looks for keywords in the title and content of the page. Even metadata is no longer looked at because that too can be easily abused.

Thanks
-Samir

Hi Samir,

Thank you for bringing up this profit niche.

From the response in this thread and getting 5 sales from it shows, to some extent, that you have a marketable product. Plus your great return of 11 sales out of less then 300 clicks (4%) is more encouragement. Maybe not profit wise as far as the PPC but with some tweaking you can make even the PPC profitable.

Now your forum marketing has hit PROFIT right away with $50 in sales with no outlay of advertising. (hint, hint) 

I was not going to post any more until the weekend but I had a training session cancel so here I am.

This thread has wandered toward keywords and keywords in the domain name.

So let's talk about that part for now.

Keywords in domain name: Six or seven years ago you could put up a site with very little content, no backlinks, and just the keywords in the domain and rank number #1 on page 1 in Google for many niches. That does not happen today for the most part.

But that does not mean that it has no value. Back then Google”s algorithm may have ranked the keywords in the URL at 90% and now maybe at 10%. I say maybe because no one knows for sure since Google keeps it a secret. You said you read that keywords in the domain name has no value but I can show you 10 articles that say it does to every 10 articles that say it is not important. Because no one knows for sure. It’s a secret.

But there is some value in having the keywords in your domain name. Also if the keywords are being searched for that’s a plus.

Martin gave you 3 domain names that are better then the domain name you have now. “easily doable” has less then 10 searchers per month according to Google’s adsword tool and has no relationship with balloons.



BalloonProfits.com Balloon Profits 0 searchers per month

Balloons2Cash.com Balloon Cash 91 searchers per month

Balloons2Profits.com Balloons Profits 0 searchers per month

So out of the four domain names at least Balloon Cash has some sign of life.

Now I just did a quick keyword search and right at the top was “Balloon Money” with 1,600 monthly searches. That is taken with the dot com extension but Balloonmoneymaker.com is available. Google will still see the words Balloon Money first and it will help you rank. If you did an extensive keyword search I’m sure you could come up with a lot more keyword names with even more searchers.

I have the search results on a chart at:

http://2abc.info/balloons.pdf

From these charts you can see all are easy to rank as #1 on Google. So which one would you go with?

I’m going to keep this post on the target of “keywords” and not get into back links (look at all them big goose eggs for the backlinks) or content. I will be back on the weekend to post what I think will help you rank for free advertising. Also other ways to get more visitors for free.

Of course this is all just in my opinion and can be taken or not

Best of success,

Skip Rosell

Originally Posted by Skip Rosell

From the response in this thread and getting 5 sales from it shows, to some extent, that you have a marketable product. Plus your great return of 11 sales out of less then 300 clicks (4%) is more encouragement. Maybe not profit wise as far as the PPC but with some tweaking you can make even the PPC profitable.

Hi Skip. I have no doubt that anyone that reads my ebook and expends just a little effort can make money. I did it from April 2009 to Nov 2010 so you're hearing it straight from the horse's mouth.

Originally Posted by Skip Rosell

Now your forum marketing has hit PROFIT right away with $50 in sales with no outlay of advertising. (hint, hint)

Thanks for the hint. You'll note that I now have a signature. This forum didn't allow me to add one before since I am a new member.

Originally Posted by Skip Rosell

I have the search results on a chart at:

http://2abc.info/balloons.pdf

Thanks for attaching the chart. It looks impressive but I am not familiar with all the acronyms (PR, BL, BLS, TBL, etc). It doesn't look like it's part of something Google Adwords offers?

To continue the domain name discussion, one reason I didn't choose a domain name with the keyword "balloon" in it is because if tomorrow I decide to promote another product, I'll have to start the whole SEO effort from scratch. I'll have to register a new domain name that fits the new product, purchase a hosting plan, create the website, optimize it for SEO and continue working to improve it's ranking. Whereas, with a generic domain name like EasilyDoable, I only have to worry about optimizing one domain name and I can easily switch the product I am promoting or add to it.

Originally Posted by Skip Rosell

Of course this is all just in my opinion and can be taken or not

I truly value your opinion and can't wait to get some more advice from you over the weekend.


I think I'll temporarily shut down my website this weekend until I have had an opportunity to implement some of the feedback I have received and continue to receive from all the great people in this community.

Thanks
-Samir

[Ankesh]

So keywords in domain still has value. Definitely more value than the title tag. But not as much value as it had 2 years back.

But saying that - you should definitely not go for balloon in the domain name. Balloons are just a means to an end. Not somethng people are going to search for.

I personally think easilydoable.com is a good brandable name. Good for a blog. Not if you're planning to do a lot of SEO. But you probably don't want to focus on a lot of SEO as it is...

1. Get biz-opp blogs and newsletters to review your product
2. Advertise on other biz-opp sites
3. Advertise on Google and Facebook if you've increased your prices
4. Participate on 3-4 forums. And joint venture with forum owners

Thats what I would do - along with starting an affiliate program so that others can promote the product.

(But I won't harp a lot about affiliate programs unless you ask - as that will just seem biased - seeing how I run the most feature-rich affiliate management application out there in the market.)

[Ankesh]

Most people here have suggested that I build a list so I am definitely looking into that. It looks like many people here favor aweber. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with MailChimp? They do not require any upfront signup fees.

I've used aweber and mailchimp both. I would recommend mailchimp over aweber.

(If you plan to start an affiliate program, do check out SuccessNexus.com - along with affiliate management features, we also provide fairly decent autoresponder and emailing options with our pro a/c.

But we are no where close to mailchimp when it comes to email features. We don't integrate with facebook or do other social media stuff. And we don't support sending of HTML emails as of yet either - however this is something that is planned. But for most people, our solution is good enough - and integrates seamlessly with the shopping process.

If you do plan to sign up for the pro a/c, send me an email with Sowpub somewhere in the subject before you do - for a special price.)

Originally Posted by Samir

Cornell...thank you for taking time to write.

I never get offended by constructive criticism.

You've offered me some great advice and an offer I just cannot refuse...so yes, please count me in.

With regards to the domain name, I've done a lot of reading specifically about how Google search algorithm operates and what I have learned is that Google no longer looks at keywords in the domain name because of the numerous abuses. Instead, the search engine looks for keywords in the title and content of the page. Even metadata is no longer looked at because that too can be easily abused.

Thanks
-Samir

Samir:

My, my, my....you can either swim with the current and get where you want to go or fight the current and pretty much get tired going nowhere.

Yes Google has changed algorythms but trust me they still put weight on keyword domains, meta tags, and content keywords....when everything matches up magic happens.

We launched a site 3 weeks ago with the above matching up...we invited Google to index it...3 days later we were 1, 5, 6 for our 3 main keywords and as of today we have had 2,341 visitors with no further promotion.

Please pay attention to what Skip is telling you in his post.

Your thinking about the generic name is plausible but that really only works if you brand the name and that can take months if not years.

With hosting and domains as cheap as they are these days it is feasible to do the minisite. $4.95 a month at Hostgator and a cheap domain name and away you go. The hard part is finding the domain name...I was contemplating one last week and didn't act but went to register it this week and someone else had snagged it.

Okay enough about that.

Will add your web page to the queque....looks like Thursday next week right now unless we run into an overrun on projects already slated....also we are into a 4 day holiday weekend here.

Please send me an email as there may be questions regarding the design and we don't and shouldn't use the forum for that purpose. My email is cfordenXmnsi.net (replace the X with the @ sign)

Cornell

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Everyone,
I just want to take a moment to thank you all for taking time out of your busy schedules to help me even though you do not know me and have never met me. No one has ever done this for me except my family.

Ankesh, Cornell, Dien, Duane, Martin, Phil, Skip and others who may be helping me behind the scenes, I must say, you all have a really really big heart. You all truly inspire me and I am just glad that my friend introduced me to this community.

I want you all to know that I will keep my end of the bargain and help you in any way I can.


Sincerely,
-Samir

Originally Posted by Ankesh

(If you plan to start an affiliate program, do check out SuccessNexus.com - along with affiliate management features, we also provide fairly decent autoresponder and emailing options with our pro a/c.

Hi Ankesh...I just took a look at SuccessNexus.com and the app definitely has some great Affiliate management features but I am wondering if a website like mine, with only one product to promote and no followers (at least not yet), is better off with a site like clickbank, where the main benefit I have is that I don't have to go looking for people to promote my product, instead they come looking for me.

I have a couple of blogger friends who I think can definitely benefit from successnexus.com and I will be sure to point them to your site.

Thanks
-Samir